Isomorphism between Clifford algebras CL(4,2) and CL(2,4)

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The discussion centers on the isomorphism between the Clifford algebras \(\mathcal{C}\ell_{2,4}(\mathbb{R})\) and \(\mathcal{C}\ell_{4,2}(\mathbb{R})\), particularly examining the reasoning behind claims made in a referenced text regarding their signatures and implications for isomorphism. Participants explore the mathematical foundations and implications of these algebras, including their applications in physics.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions the validity of the claim that the algebras are isomorphic based solely on their signatures, expressing skepticism about the reasoning presented in the referenced text.
  • Another participant explains that the Clifford algebra is generated by matrices \(\Gamma_\mu\) satisfying a specific anti-commutation relation, suggesting a method to transform the metric tensor by sending \(\Gamma_\mu \to i \Gamma_\mu\).
  • A different participant requests clarification on the notation used in the mathematical expressions, indicating a lack of understanding of the terms and symbols involved.
  • One participant argues that the transformation involving multiplication by \(i\) only establishes isomorphism over the complex numbers \(\mathbb{C}\), not over the reals \(\mathbb{R}\), and suggests that this distinction may be practically sufficient for physical applications.
  • Concerns are raised about the validity of applying similar reasoning to other Clifford algebras, questioning the generalizability of the argument made regarding the isomorphism.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the validity of the isomorphism claim based on signatures, with no consensus reached on the correctness of the arguments presented. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the implications of the transformations and the nature of the isomorphism.

Contextual Notes

Participants note potential limitations in the reasoning, including missing assumptions and the dependence on the definitions of the terms used. The discussion highlights the complexity of establishing isomorphisms between Clifford algebras and the nuances involved in their mathematical treatment.

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Hi,

I was reading a paragraph of a book (you can find it here) where the author seems to suggest that the Clifford algebras \mathcal{C}\ell_{2,4}(\mathbb{R}) and \mathcal{C}\ell_{4,2}(\mathbb{R}) are isomorphic. In particular, at the third line after Equation (10.190), when he talks about the algebra with signature (4,2), the authors says:

"The signature shows that this space is isomorphic to the conformal algebra of spacetime"

where by "conformal algebra of spacetime" he means the algebra with signature (2,4).

How did he manage to deduce just from the signatures of these two algebras that they are indeed isomorphic?
I am not convinced of this statement, and I am wondering if there is a quick way to prove it (that I am missing).

Thanks!
 
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The Clifford algebra is generated by matrices ##\Gamma_\mu## satisfying

$$\{ \Gamma_\mu, \Gamma_\nu \} = 2 \eta_{\mu\nu}$$
To flip ##\eta_{\mu\nu} \to - \eta_{\mu\nu}##, just send ##\Gamma_\mu \to i \Gamma_\mu##.
 
Hi Ben,

thanks a lot for answering, though I must confess that I didn't understand anything of what you wrote.
In particular, I don't know what \Gamma and \eta stand for, and I have never seen the notation \{A,B\}. Could you please clarify this?
Thanks.
 
Sorry, but I don't think my original question received an answer.

Assuming that in Ben's first equation the curly braces denote the anti-commutator, and assuming that η in the right-term denotes the metric tensor (btw the identity matrix next to η is missing), then I don't see how the trick of sending ##\Gamma_\mu \to i \Gamma_\mu## could automatically prove that we have created a Clifford algebra isomorphism.

It seems to me that we could apply, for instance, the same reasoning to the generating elements of ##\mathcal{C}\ell_{2,0}(\mathbb{R})## and prove that: ##\mathcal{C}\ell_{2,0}(\mathbb{R})\simeq \mathcal{C}\ell_{0,2}(\mathbb{R}) \simeq \mathbb{H}## which is clearly not true.

I hope someone can answer my original question.
 
Good points. Since the map I've written involves multiplication by ##i##, it only establishes the isomorphism of the algebras over ##\mathbb{C}##, not over ##\mathbb{R}##. But I think for any practical purpose, that is enough. I know it makes no physical difference whether you work in a Clifford algebra of signature (p,q) or of (q,p). It should be obvious that ##SO(p,q) \simeq SO(q,p)##, so either Clifford algebra can be used to construct 1/2-integer representations.
 

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