Permutations of basis elements in Clifford Algebras

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the properties and mappings of multivectors in Clifford algebras, specifically focusing on the algebra CL(2,0) and its relation to the Hodge star operator. Participants explore the possibility of permuting basis elements and the implications of such mappings on the structure of the algebra.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant introduces a mapping for multivectors in CL(2,0) and questions the possibility of permuting basis elements similarly to vector spaces using permutation matrices.
  • Another participant suggests that the described mapping resembles the Hodge star operator, noting its equivalence to multiplication by the volume element in this context.
  • A participant confirms the effectiveness of the Hodge star operator in CL(2,0) but expresses uncertainty about the existence of a general operator for permuting basis elements across all cases.
  • Concerns are raised about the need for mappings to be morphisms to be useful, with an example provided that illustrates a mapping that fails to satisfy morphism properties.
  • Another participant clarifies that preserving algebraic relations during basis permutation is necessary for obtaining an algebra morphism, as opposed to merely a linear morphism.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree on the role of the Hodge star operator in the context of CL(2,0), but there is no consensus on the existence of a general operator for permuting basis elements or the conditions under which mappings can be considered morphisms.

Contextual Notes

Participants note that the mappings discussed may require additional proof to establish their properties as morphisms, and the implications of such mappings depend on the preservation of algebraic relations.

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Hello,
let's consider, for example, the Clifford algebra CL(2,0) and the following mapping f for an arbitrary multivector:

a + b\mathbf{e_1}+c\mathbf{e_2}+d\mathbf{e_{12}} \longmapsto a\mathbf{e_{12}} + b\mathbf{e_1}+c\mathbf{e_2}+d

For vector spaces R^n we can permute the coordinates of vectors by a linear (and orthogonal) transformation defined as a permutation matrix.
Is it possible to do something similar for multivectors? or should we just say that we are applying a mapping f:\mathcal{C}\ell_{2,0} \rightarrow \mathcal{C}\ell_{2,0} ?

Thanks.
 
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What you have described is essentially the Hodge * operator - that is up to a sign equivalent to multiplication by the volume element e_{12} in this case. Its general definition is

x\wedge \star y=(x,y)e

where e=e_1\ldots e_n

and x,y are arbitrary elements of the algebra.

Remark: for this you need to extend the scalar product to the whole algebra, but that is canonical.
 
That is true!
In the particular case of CL(2,0) the Hodge star operator works as expected!

So, if I understood correctly there is no "general" operator that permutes any of the 2^n basis into another. I guess we can do it by simply forcing to define a mapping, but then we would probably need to prove that such mapping is a morphism (in order to be useful).

For example if we consider CL(3,0) and the following mapping
a\mathbf{e_{12}}+b\mathbf{e_{23}}+c\mathbf{e_{32}} \longmapsto a + b\mathbf{e_{23}}+c\mathbf{e_{32}}<br />

we would have that f(e_{12})=1, but f(e_{12}e_{12})\neq f(e_{12})f(e_{12}) so that mapping is not a morphism.
 
If you permute the basis in such a way that the algebraic relations between generators are preserved - you get an algebra morphism, otherwise you get just a linear morphism. If you are lucky - your linear morphism may have some additional properties.
 
Thanks!
now everything is more clear.
 

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