I Issue with Stellarium: transit of Venus (find the parallax)

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The discussion revolves around the challenge of determining the parallax of Venus during its transit across the Sun using Stellarium. Users noted that the software appears to rotate the Sun and Venus rather than accurately depicting the parallax from different Earth locations. Calculations suggest that observers on a 12,000 km baseline could expect a parallax of about 0.7 arcminutes, which may be difficult to measure in a simulated environment. It was also mentioned that using an equatorial mount in Stellarium could help eliminate the rotation effect between different observers' views. The conversation highlights the limitations of Stellarium for this specific astronomical measurement task.
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I am having problems using Stellarium. I was trying to find the parallax of the transit of Venus as viewed from two different locations. I am not sure whether the results given by Stellarium is accurate.
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These are the two snapshot (on Stellarium) of the Third Contact between Venus and the Sun at the same time at different locations on Earth. The top image is viewd from Quito, Ecuador, the bottom image is from Harrisburg. I am supposed to determine the parallax. The angles were calculated using Geogebra. It appearrs that instead of revealing the parallax, Stellarium merely rotates the sun and the Venus.

  1. Is this supposed to be the right view from the respective locations?
  2. How should one calculate the parallax?

P.S. this exercise was proposed here Using a transit of Venus to determine the Astronomical Unit, using another planetarium application though.

Thanks in advance!

P.S.S.
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This was what I tried, where the white boxes refer to the length.
 
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This is a very specific problem and I'm not sure we have anyone here who can really answer it, as PF isn't a specialized astronomy forum. Best of luck to you though.
 
Drakkith said:
This is a very specific problem and I'm not sure we have anyone here who can really answer it, as PF isn't a specialized astronomy forum. Best of luck to you though.
Hmm, thanks! Let me try to ask this somewhere else (I just realized there's a Stellarium mailing list), while I wait here.
 
Some quick estimates on the calculator seems to suggest that two simultaneous observers on a 12000 km baseline (just to take a near-maximum baseline distance) can expect a parallax of venus relative to the sun at around 0.7 arcmin or just around 2% of the diameter of the sun disc. If that is correct, you may have a hard time picking that number up from a "simulated" measurement setup.
 
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Filip Larsen said:
Some quick estimates on the calculator seems to suggest that two simultaneous observers on a 12000 km baseline (just to take a near-maximum baseline distance) can expect a parallax of venus relative to the sun at around 0.7 arcmin or just around 2% of the diameter of the sun disc. If that is correct, you may have a hard time picking that number up from a "simulated" measurement setup.
Oops, looks like I should have tried estimating first.
 
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I'm not sure, but I think observation from different latitudes causes the sun to be viewed at different rotation angles.
 
russ_watters said:
I'm not sure, but I think observation from different latitudes causes the sun to be viewed at different rotation angles.
I concur. I have only tried the web version (which it otherwise quite nicely done) and it appears to always render the sky using the local horizon coordinate system ("azimuthal grid"). Not sure if the desktop versions have options to render in, say, equatorial or heliocentric coordinates, but if it does that should then "remove" the relative rotation between snapshots from two different observers.
 
Filip Larsen said:
I concur. I have only tried the web version (which it otherwise quite nicely done) and it appears to always render the sky using the local horizon coordinate system ("azimuthal grid"). Not sure if the desktop versions have options to render in, say, equatorial or heliocentric coordinates, but if it does that should then "remove" the relative rotation between snapshots from two different observers.
I tried asking here:
https://groups.google.com/g/stellarium/c/XyMYtsI0Io0

Indeed, I should have used equatorial mount to disable rotation. Tried it in stellarium just now, and it works.
 
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