It's remarkable some of the things you lose in a divorce

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The discussion revolves around the personal experiences and emotional impacts of losing possessions during a divorce. Participants share anecdotes about items taken by ex-spouses, the motivations behind such actions, and the emotional significance of those items. The conversation touches on themes of loss, maturity, and the often contentious nature of divorce.

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  • Some participants recount specific items taken by their ex-spouses, such as kitchenware, books, and personal belongings, highlighting the emotional weight of these losses.
  • There is a suggestion that the behavior of stealing items during a divorce may stem from immaturity or unresolved emotional issues, with some participants expressing confusion over such actions.
  • Others propose that the acrimony in divorces can lead to irrational behavior, though they acknowledge the complexity of emotions involved, including disappointment and loneliness.
  • One participant notes that their ex took a sewing machine, which she did not know how to use, raising questions about the motivations behind such choices.
  • Several participants express a desire for more maturity in handling possessions during a divorce, suggesting that some actions are petty and unnecessary.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree on the emotional difficulty of losing items during a divorce and express confusion over the motivations for such behavior. However, there is no consensus on the reasons behind these actions, with differing views on maturity and emotional responses.

Contextual Notes

Some discussions reference specific emotional experiences and the significance of items taken, but there are no clear resolutions or agreements on the underlying motivations for these behaviors.

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Individuals interested in personal narratives about divorce, emotional impacts of relationship breakdowns, and discussions on human behavior in contentious situations may find this thread relevant.

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Does anyone have a decent Burette, stand and clamp they would be willing to sell for a reasonable price?
 
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Oh, my. :rolleyes:

Were you both scientifically inclined? If not, yeah, that is pretty remarkable.
 
collinsmark said:
...were you both scientifically inclined?

Because we probably only live once I tend to marry well outside my usual social groups :biggrin:
 
As if I needed another reason not to ever get married.
 
bp_psy said:
As if I needed another reason not to ever get married.

:eek: NOooo...

Marriage can be is delicious, never miss a taste during our one shot at life :biggrin:
Speaking of which, do you have a Burette?
 
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Even in the nicest of divorces, people tend to lose it. My ex husband stole the kid's keys to my house and had a copy made, and kept breaking in and stealing stuff, things that only had meaning to me and were of no real monetary value. He'd steal silverware out of the dishwasher, plates and bowls, place mats, cookbooks (he didn't cook), he stole my winter clothes, my birth certificate and passports. Nuts.

He'd just run in, grab stuff and run out. One of my daughters caught him in the act of stealing my filing cabinet and wouldn't let him leave with it. She stationed herself between him and the door and wouldn't budge and called me, so he left empty handed that time. Another time I came home unexpectedly and caught him, he jumped in his car and took off. I had the locks changed several times because he kept stealing the girl's keys. I finally had to tell them to leave their keys with me when they went to his house. They searched his house and reported all of my stuff he had. He had hidden piles of my stuff in the back of closets and piled stuff over them. Unbelievable.
 
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Evo said:
Even in the nicest of divorces, people tend to lose it. My ex husband stole the kid's keys to my house and had a copy made, and kept breaking in and stealing stuff, things that only had meaning to me and were of no real monetary value. He'd steal silverware out of the dishwasher, plates and bowls, place mats, cookbooks (he didn't cook), he stole my winter clothes, my birth certificate and passports. Nuts.

He'd just run in, grab stuff and run out. One of my daughters caught him in the act of stealing my filing cabinet and wouldn't let him leave with it. She stationed herself between him and the door and wouldn't budge and called me, so he left empty handed that time. Another time I came home unexpectedly and caught him, he jumped in his car and took off. I had the locks changed several times because he kept stealing the girl's keys. I finally had to tell them to leave their keys with me when they went to his house. They searched his house and reported all of my stuff he had. He had hidden piles of my stuff in the back of closets and piled stuff over them. Unbelievable.

Been there too, my ex also took ALL my books. I have managed to sneak a few back but the majority seem to be gone :P

Why this seems to be the case for many divorcees is beyond me. Anyway...
Do you have a burette? :)
 
I honestly do not understand why so many people who divorce their spouses engages in such petty and frankly immature behaviour as to resort to stealing or taking things that is of no obvious value to them (e.g. silverware for Evo, books for mesa). I understand that there is often acrimony in a divorce (a once passionate love can sometimes evolve into passionate hatred), but frankly, can't these people step out and see just how ridiculous they are behaving?
 
StatGuy2000 said:
I honestly do not understand why so many people who divorce their spouses engages in such petty and frankly immature behaviour as to resort to stealing or taking things that is of no obvious value to them (e.g. silverware for Evo, books for mesa). I understand that there is often acrimony in a divorce (a once passionate love can sometimes evolve into passionate hatred), but frankly, can't these people step out and see just how ridiculous they are behaving?

I suppose it's mostly what you hit on - maturity. It takes a great deal of maturity to not blame the other person for everything. Yes, often there is plenty of acrimony, but also disappointment, fear, abandonment, rejection, loneliness. Very painful stuff. I try not to judge people too harshly for stupid things they do as they work through all that, but they should try to be reasonable.

OP - how did you lose your burette in the divorce?

(I do have one btw but I don't want to lend it out :biggrin:.)
 
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My ex took my sewing machine which she didn't know how to use. Other than that, we were pretty fair in dividing things up, including dishes, silverware, pots/pans, etc. The thing that bothered me was the first thing she packed up was the kitchenware she was taking. I went to make dinner and the collander and all the cooking spoons, etc, were already packed! Seriously?! Couldn't those things be the last things packed? It's not like we were going to stop eating for the entire week she packed her stuff!

And it did bother me that she took the spoon holders her grandmother gave her. Obviously, those were hers to take, but she never used them. They were just there on the stove to look nice - kind of - they were supposed to look like prickly pear cactus and looked nice in a 50's tacky sort of way. I used them whenever she was gone (which by time we divorced was nearly all the time) and just never told her (since she would have been pretty outraged to find out someone was actually putting dirty spoons in her spoon holders).

The ones I have now actually go with the things I have in the kitchen, but I still miss those spoon holders. Sometimes a little tackiness makes a kitchen look more homey. Now I have to settle for my ThinkGeek knife holder to add a little tackiness.

All in all, it could have been worse. It could have been Halloween and she could have taken the Halloween candy and then I would have had to spend Halloween night hiding in the closet, trick or treaters would have figured things out anyway, and I would have gone out the next morning to find toilet paper hanging from all my trees.
 
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StatGuy2000 said:
I honestly do not understand why so many people who divorce their spouses engages in such petty and frankly immature behaviour as to resort to stealing or taking things that is of no obvious value to them (e.g. silverware for Evo, books for mesa). I understand that there is often acrimony in a divorce (a once passionate love can sometimes evolve into passionate hatred), but frankly, can't these people step out and see just how ridiculous they are behaving?

I don't get it either although I would imagine this is more common thing to happen to the person asking for the divorce :P

lisab said:
I suppose it's mostly what you hit on - maturity. It takes a great deal of maturity to not blame the other person for everything. Yes, often there is plenty of acrimony, but also disappointment, fear, abandonment, rejection, loneliness. Very painful stuff. I try not to judge people too harshly for stupid things they do as they work through all that, but they should try to be reasonable.

OP - how did you lose your burette in the divorce?

She's apparently very sneaky :mad:

BobG said:
My ex took my sewing machine which she didn't know how to use. Other than that, we were pretty fair in dividing things up, including dishes, silverware, pots/pans, etc. The thing that bothered me was the first thing she packed up was the kitchenware she was taking. I went to make dinner and the collander and all the cooking spoons, etc, were already packed! Seriously?! Couldn't those things be the last things packed? It's not like we were going to stop eating for the entire week she packed her stuff!

And it did bother me that she took the spoon holders her grandmother gave her. Obviously, those were hers to take, but she never used them. They were just there on the stove to look nice - kind of - they were supposed to look like prickly pear cactus and looked nice in a 50's tacky sort of way. I used them whenever she was gone (which by time we divorced was nearly all the time) and just never told her (since she would have been pretty outraged to find out someone was actually putting dirty spoons in her spoon holders).

The ones I have now actually go with the things I have in the kitchen, but I still miss those spoon holders. Sometimes a little tackiness makes a kitchen look more homey. Now I have to settle for my ThinkGeek knife holder to add a little tackiness.

All in all, it could have been worse. It could have been Halloween and she could have taken the Halloween candy and then I would have had to spend Halloween night hiding in the closet, trick or treaters would have figured things out anyway, and I would have gone out the next morning to find toilet paper hanging from all my trees.

Welcome to the club! Maybe we should have a divorcee section on the forums? :wink:

lisab said:
I do have one btw but I don't want to lend it out :biggrin:

You must still be married :biggrin:
 
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After a second divorce it's a lot easier to not be attached to material items. Just sayin'
 
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dlgoff said:
After a second divorce it's a lot easier to not be attached to material items. Just sayin'

Experience has shown third times the real charm :approve:
 
  • #14
And after the third time there's probably not going to be enough money to buy anything else; experience has shown.
 
  • #15
dlgoff said:
And after the third time there's probably not going to be enough money to buy anything else.

Yeah, these houses are getting expensive...

***EDIT***
On a side note, I found a burette!

In fact I found everything I will ever possibly need. Our campus chemistry stockroom is okay with departmental loans of equipment so long as we fill out the proper request form and return everything at the scheduled times. Hooray!

Today I picked up everything I needed and threw in a couple plate stirrers and griffin beakers for good measure, this is going to be great!

I guess the next question will be, what to do next? :biggrin:
 
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breaking bad?
 
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billiards said:
breaking bad?

That is exactly what my boss said when I came back from the stockroom :biggrin:
 
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:smile::smile::smile:
 
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mesa said:
In fact I found everything I will ever possibly need.

You found another woman?!

:-p
 
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:smile::smile::smile:
 
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lisab said:
In fact I found everything I will ever possibly need.
You found another woman?!

:-p

That is the LAST thing I need!
...although I am hoping for better luck next week :biggrin:
 
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A divorce can really bring the worst out in people. I've heard some crazy stories. I've never been married - came close once. After reading some of things I have, I am glad I didn't! (I assume our marriage would have ended - seeing as she was sleeping with just about everyone she could find) Honestly though, part of me would want to be a judge just to hear some of the crazy divorce demands.
 
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Finthefox said:
A divorce can really bring the worst out in people. I've heard some crazy stories.

You can break divorce into 6 different (and separate) areas: Emotional, Financial, Co-parenting, Legal, Friend (who gets custody of them?), and the Psyche (the changes that a person makes in themselves going forward as at least a somewhat different person). Each have to be handled separately from the others (except the legal overlaps, since its formalizing some resolution of other areas).

The emotional area deals with getting through the emotions caused by divorce. Quite a few people try to use other areas of the divorce to resolve issues in the emotional area. That almost never turns out good. It doesn't resolve the emotional issues the way the person thought it would and just messes things up in the other areas.

All the people that want to divorce their spouse on grounds of adultery - only to find out that, in a country where every state has no-fault divorce, the courts couldn't care less about why you're divorcing them. It's just a business transaction of splitting up the assets/debts, parenting responsibilities, etc. That's hard for a person that was looking for the courts to give them emotional validation.

But crazy demands...?

Really want to send a spouse over the edge? Move in with the woman you were cheating with and argue in court that the kids would be better off in your custody where they'd live in a two parent home rather than living in a single parent household. Worse, as outrageous as this sounds, there's some legitimate reasoning behind this - except usually it's applied as a reason why a couple shouldn't get divorced in the first place.

I don't know if that's ever actually worked, especially given the tendency for courts to lean towards shared custody whenever possible, but I know of at least one person that tried that argument. I think that's called chutzpah.
 
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mesa said:
Welcome to the club! Maybe we should have a divorcee section on the forums? :wink:

We do. It is called https://www.physicsforums.com/forumdisplay.php?f=199 .
 
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Will one lose their sanity after a divorce?
 
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lendav_rott said:
Will one lose their sanity after a divorce?

Some will, others risk losing sanity without a divorce.
 
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lendav_rott said:
Will one lose their sanity after a divorce?

Nah...that comes with the engagement ring...
 
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Divorce - when love dies, it doesn't leave a vacuum. It leaves behind an equal volume of anger, hurt, and rage, with the target being the person you used to be married to.

My divorce was fairly mellow, by the standards of divorces. We had nothing fiscally worth fighting over, and no kids, so the usual excuses for endless bickering weren't applicable. And after several years of not talking to her, I don't even hate her any more.
 
  • #29
Enigman said:
Nah...that comes with the engagement ring...
There are three rings. Engagement ring, marriage ring, suffer-ring. :-p
 

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