IUPAC Naming of Organic Compounds: Cis and Trans Isomers with Substituent Groups

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The forum discussion focuses on the IUPAC naming conventions for organic compounds, specifically addressing cis and trans isomers with substituent groups. The user initially proposed the name "Cis-3-secbutyl, 1-methylcyclopentane," but the correct IUPAC name is "Cis-1-methyl-3-(1-methyl)propylcyclopentane." The discussion clarifies that both names refer to the same compound, highlighting the complexity of naming conventions in organic chemistry, particularly with substituent groups. The user also notes that "sec butyl" may provide more clarity than "1-methylpropyl," reflecting the nuances in IUPAC nomenclature.

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Homework Statement



Give an acceptable IUPAC name for these compounds.

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The Attempt at a Solution



So the question is really on the 2nd problem in the picture but I need to reference the first one for my question.

So my original guess on the 2nd problem was. Cis-3-secbutyl, 1-methylcyclopentane

I looked up the answer and it was... Cis-1-methyl-3-(1-methyl)propylcyclopentane

So I sort of understand how naming complex substituent groups work so I applied it to the first question and got... trans 1-(1-methyl)ethyl, 3-methylcyclohexane. The answer to that was trans-1-isopropyl-3-methylcyclohexane.

So just to reiterate my question, is Cis-3-secbutyl,1-methylcyclopentane the same as Cis-1-methyl-3-(1-methyl)propylcyclopentane?

If it's not I'd appreciate any help :D
 
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dolpho said:
is Cis-3-secbutyl,1-methylcyclopentane the same as Cis-1-methyl-3-(1-methyl)propylcyclopentane?
Yes. My gut says that "sec butyl" is more informative than 1-methylpropyl (since this is just a butyl chain), but IUPAC is wacky like that.
 

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