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This discussion focuses on calculating the Jacobian matrix for a system of differential equations involving both first and second-order derivatives. The user seeks clarification on the correct arrangement of equations for computing the Lyapunov exponent, particularly for a system represented by four coupled equations. The provided MATLAB code illustrates the differentiation process to construct the Jacobian matrix, emphasizing the need for precise handling of second-order derivatives. The user concludes that the relevant concept may be the Wronskian rather than the Jacobian.

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Greetings all,

I hope someone out there in the vast hinterland of the internet can help.

I'm trying to calculate the lyapunov exponent for a system of differential equations. Now I can do this just fine for a system involving only first order derivatives such the Lorenz system, however, and this is the kicker, I'm trying to calculate it for a system involving 2nd and 1st order derivatives.

So my question, what would the jacobian be for a systems like this?

\begin{align*}
\ddot{y}_1+\alpha\dot{y}_1+\beta y_1&=\beta (w_{ee}S(y_2) -w_{ie}S(y_3) -w_{ie}S(y_4) )\\
\ddot{y}_2+\alpha\dot{y}_2+\beta y_2&=\beta (w_{ee}S(y_1) -w_{ie}S(y_3))\\
\ddot{y}_3+\alpha\dot{y}_3+\beta y_3&=\beta (w_{ei}S(y_1) +w_{ei}S(y_2) -w_{ii}S(y_4))\\
\ddot{y}_4+\alpha\dot{y}_4+\beta y_4&=\beta (w_{ei}S(y_1) -w_{ii}S(y_3))
\end{align*}

I initially thought you just rearranged it for y1ddot and then (in Matlab code) did something like this, but now I'm not so sure this is the right arrangement. I've looked everywhere I can think of but can't find any info.%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%

a11=diff(y1dot,y1);
a12=diff(y1dot,y1dot);
a13=diff(y1dot,y2);
a14=diff(y1dot,y2dot);
a15=diff(y1dot,y3);
a16=diff(y1dot,y3dot);
a17=diff(y1dot,y4);
a18=diff(y1dot,y4dot);

a21=diff(y1ddot,y1);
a22=diff(y1ddot,y1dot);
a23=diff(y1ddot,y2);
a24=diff(y1ddot,y2dot);
a25=diff(y1ddot,y3);
a26=diff(y1ddot,y3dot);
a27=diff(y1ddot,y4);
a28=diff(y1ddot,y4dot);

%--------------------------------------------------------------------------

a31=diff(y2dot,y1);
a32=diff(y2dot,y1dot);
a33=diff(y2dot,y2);
a34=diff(y2dot,y2dot);
a35=diff(y2dot,y3);
a36=diff(y2dot,y3dot);
a37=diff(y2dot,y4);
a38=diff(y2dot,y4dot);

a41=diff(y2ddot,y1);
a42=diff(y2ddot,y1dot);
a43=diff(y2ddot,y2);
a44=diff(y2ddot,y2dot);
a45=diff(y2ddot,y3);
a46=diff(y2ddot,y3dot);
a47=diff(y2ddot,y4);
a48=diff(y2ddot,y4dot);

%--------------------------------------------------------------------------

a51=diff(y3dot,y1);
a52=diff(y3dot,y1dot);
a53=diff(y3dot,y2);
a54=diff(y3dot,y2dot);
a55=diff(y3dot,y3);
a56=diff(y3dot,y3dot);
a57=diff(y3dot,y4);
a58=diff(y3dot,y4dot);

a61=diff(y3ddot,y1);
a62=diff(y3ddot,y1dot);
a63=diff(y3ddot,y2);
a64=diff(y3ddot,y2dot);
a65=diff(y3ddot,y3);
a66=diff(y3ddot,y3dot);
a67=diff(y3ddot,y4);
a68=diff(y3ddot,y4dot);

%--------------------------------------------------------------------------

a71=diff(y4dot,y1);
a72=diff(y4dot,y1dot);
a73=diff(y4dot,y2);
a74=diff(y4dot,y2dot);
a75=diff(y4dot,y3);
a76=diff(y4dot,y3dot);
a77=diff(y4dot,y4);
a78=diff(y4dot,y4dot);

a81=diff(y4ddot,y1);
a82=diff(y4ddot,y1dot);
a83=diff(y4ddot,y2);
a84=diff(y4ddot,y2dot);
a85=diff(y4ddot,y3);
a86=diff(y4ddot,y3dot);
a87=diff(y4ddot,y4);
a88=diff(y4ddot,y4dot);

%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%

Jac=[(a11) (a12) (a13) (a14) (a15) (a16) (a17) (a18);
(a21) (a22) (a23) (a24) (a25) (a26) (a27) (a28);
(a31) (a32) (a33) (a34) (a35) (a36) (a37) (a38);
(a41) (a42) (a43) (a44) (a45) (a46) (a47) (a48);
(a51) (a52) (a53) (a54) (a55) (a56) (a57) (a58);
(a61) (a62) (a63) (a64) (a65) (a66) (a67) (a68);
(a71) (a72) (a73) (a74) (a75) (a76) (a77) (a78);
(a81) (a82) (a83) (a84) (a85) (a86) (a87) (a88);]
 
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