Japanese Debut: IceLESS Skating Rinks - NHL Experts

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the introduction of iceless skating rinks in Japan, focusing on the materials used, their durability, and the implications for skating techniques such as hockey stops. Participants explore the practicality and maintenance of these rinks compared to traditional ice surfaces.

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  • Technical explanation

Main Points Raised

  • Some participants express concern about the wear and tear on the rink surface from techniques like hockey stops, questioning how long the material will last under such conditions.
  • One participant recalls past experiences with plastic skating rinks, noting their functionality during holiday seasons, but does not draw direct comparisons to the new technology.
  • There are questions about whether skates might get stuck in the surface texture, and how the rink will be maintained to ensure a smooth skating experience.
  • A participant suggests that maintenance could involve modifying existing equipment like Zambonis to apply new layers or smooth the surface periodically.
  • Technical suggestions include heating the surface or using solvents to restore the rink's condition, with some skepticism about the cost-effectiveness of maintaining a low-friction surface compared to traditional ice.
  • Some off-topic comments about accents and cultural backgrounds appear, diverging from the main discussion about the skating rinks.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on the durability and maintenance of iceless rinks, with multiple competing views on the practicality and effectiveness of the proposed solutions for surface wear.

Contextual Notes

Participants express uncertainty regarding the specific materials used in the iceless rinks and their long-term performance, as well as the potential costs associated with maintenance strategies.

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Plastic skating rinks have been around a while. When I was a kid, they used to set one up in the mall for the winter holiday season. I don't know how similar that is to the current ones, but it seemed to work well enough for people to have a little fun in the mall.
 
Oh wow, that is some pretty sweet stuff. :)

Wouldn't your skates get stuck in the treads of others?? How are they going to smooth it out??
 
There is nothing like falling on ice.
 
gravenewworld said:
http://sports.yahoo.com/nhl/blog/nh...-Japanese-debut-iceless-skating?urn=nhl,83652



Pretty neat stuff. However, I don't understand what will happen if you do a hockey stop. The material will have to wear down from such a stop. How long could it last then?

Can't they modify the Zamboni to lay down a new layer of plastic? Or at least sand it down to a smooth surface with a whole new surface installed periodically.
 
That asian guy has an australian accent! Thats more amazing than the report.

Ahahah, look at fat boy try to ice skate.
 
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There's a chick on one of the Science Channel shows whose Chinese and has an Aussie accent...
 
Australia is a country made up of people from a variety of ethnic backgrounds.
 
junglist said:
Australia is a country made up of people from a variety of ethnic backgrounds.

Kangarooooooooooooooooooo
 
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In response to the OP:

Even normal skating would damage the surface over time and it would need to be treated to get it back to its original glory. if the material is a simple non-crosslinked polymer (like a wax) then it could have the surface heated to a melting point where surface tension and gravity will smooth out any bumps or divots. Alternatively a solvent could be spread across the surface and then scraped off / allowed to evaporate / re-set the polymer.

It would probably more costly to create and maintain a low friction surface on one of those plastic rinks than it would on a traditional ice. Maybe if someone comes up with a self-healing memory polymer with super low friction under load it'll catch on.

from the article it sounds like they haven't included running surface repairs into their cost-benefit analysis.
 

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