John Oliver: Funny & Insightful Science Video

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The discussion revolves around a video by John Oliver that humorously critiques the portrayal of science in the media, the publication practices in scientific journals, and the pressures faced by researchers. Participants share their thoughts on the effectiveness of Oliver's presentation style and the implications of his criticisms on the scientific community.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants appreciate Oliver's ability to condense complex subjects into an engaging format, suggesting that a team likely supports his efforts in editing and content creation.
  • One participant highlights Oliver's criticism of media sensationalism regarding scientific studies, noting that it is a warranted concern.
  • Concerns are raised about the pressure to publish in academia, with participants mentioning instances of the same research being published in multiple venues without significant new contributions.
  • Some participants discuss the reliability of peer review, indicating that rejected papers can still be published, which raises questions about the quality of some published research.
  • Oliver's criticisms are noted to include the trivialization of science by popular science outlets and the potential misrepresentation of scientific matters by institutions or individuals.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express a mix of agreement on the value of Oliver's critiques while also presenting differing views on the implications of peer review and publication practices. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the overall impact of these issues on the scientific community.

Contextual Notes

Participants mention specific cases of publication practices and peer review outcomes, indicating a need for further exploration of the assumptions underlying these claims. The discussion does not resolve the complexities involved in the relationship between media portrayal and scientific integrity.

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Very funny and insightful video:

 
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The cool thing I find about that guy in my opinion is how he manages to compress to less than half an hour a lengthy subject (of anything he talks about) and still make it precise, accurate, informational, and attractive to hear.

I say "he manages to compress", but there's probably a whole team working on and stuff (perhaps helping with editing and such).
 
Haha! Nice!
 
His criticism of how the media sensationalizes 'new' studies, or any study, or otherwise portrays science or scientists, is warranted.

And then there is the pressure on the part of many to publish. I often see the same paper published in different journals without much new information, and sometimes, the same work is published at multiple conferences.

I know of some cases were reviewers rejected papers that were subsequently published, and so, sometimes, garbage gets published.
 
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I know of some cases were reviewers rejected papers that were subsequently published, and so, sometimes, garbage gets published.

Just because a reviewer rejects a paper, that doesn't mean it shouldn't get published. It's a big red flag though.
 
micromass said:
Just because a reviewer rejects a paper, that doesn't mean it shouldn't get published. It's a big red flag though.
Two reviewers rejected the paper, and there was some problems with the work, not to mention that the paper failed to address something that in the paper was claimed would be addressed. One of the authors was a former student of the editor of the prestigious international journal. But I digress.

Three of Oliver's criticisms are how the media portrays science, or scientific studies, how popsci trivializes science, and in some cases, how some institutions or individuals misrepresent scientific matters or mislead the public.
 
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