Julian Days: Guide to Formula & Calculations

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The discussion revolves around the formulas for calculating Julian Days, specifically focusing on the differences between the Gregorian and Julian calendar calculations. Participants express confusion regarding the steps involved in the formulas and seek clarification on their correctness and derivation.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant presents the formulas for calculating Julian Days for both the Gregorian and Julian calendars but expresses a lack of understanding regarding the workings of each step.
  • Another participant questions the accuracy of the provided formulas, suggesting they may represent modified Julian dates instead and requests the source of the formulas.
  • A third participant provides a link to an external source for a derivation of the Julian Day calculation.
  • A fourth participant reiterates the link to the U.S. Naval Observatory's formula as a better reference for Julian Day calculations.

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Participants do not reach a consensus on the correctness of the formulas presented. There are competing views regarding the validity of the formulas and the sources cited for clarification.

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There is uncertainty regarding the definitions and distinctions between Julian Days and modified Julian dates, as well as the accuracy of the formulas provided. Participants have not resolved these issues.

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the julian day formula goes like this:

[tex]\begin{matrix}a & = & \left\lfloor\frac{14 - month}{12}\right\rfloor \\ \\y & = & year + 4800 - a \\ \\m & = & month + 12a - 3 \\\end{matrix}[/tex]

For a date in the Gregorian calendar (at noon):

[tex]\begin{matrix}JDN & = & day + \left\lfloor\frac{153m + 2}{5}\right\rfloor + 365y + \left\lfloor\frac{y}{4}\right\rfloor - \left\lfloor\frac{y}{100}\right\rfloor + \left\lfloor\frac{y}{400}\right\rfloor - 32045\end{matrix}[/tex]

For a date in the Julian calendar (at noon):

[tex]\begin{matrix}JDN & = & day + \left\lfloor\frac{153m + 2}{5}\right\rfloor + 365y + \left\lfloor\frac{y}{4}\right\rfloor - 32083\end{matrix}[/tex]

I do not understand how each step works, so can someone please guide me through?
 
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It looks like the latter two are formulae for some kind of modified Julian date rather than a Julian date. They also don't like right. Where did you get these? Much better formulae are at the http://aa.usno.navy.mil/faq/docs/JD_Formula.html" .
 
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See

http://www.vsg.cape.com/~pbaum/date/date0.htm

for a derivation.
 
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Another source to consider:
http://aa.usno.navy.mil/faq/docs/JD_Formula.html
 
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thanks guys.
 

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