Just learning about power machines, I have a basic question

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Discussion Overview

The discussion centers around the operation of a Double Fed Induction Generator (DFIG) and the relationship between rotor voltage and stator output voltage. Participants explore the theoretical underpinnings of this machine, particularly in the context of an educational setup used for experiments.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant describes their experimental setup involving a DFIG and notes the significant increase in stator voltage when varying the rotor voltage, seeking to understand the underlying physical principles.
  • Another participant questions whether the original poster has studied machine theory, suggesting that their inquiries are theoretical in nature.
  • A participant mentions that the DFIG could be viewed as a transformer, where the rotor voltage contributes to the stator voltage, but expresses uncertainty about the accuracy of this analogy.
  • Another participant states that the DFIG operates as a wound rotor machine with AC applied to the rotor, implying that the original poster's course will eventually cover this topic.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on the explanation of the DFIG's operation. There are multiple interpretations of how rotor voltage affects stator voltage, and some uncertainty remains regarding the theoretical aspects of the machine.

Contextual Notes

Participants acknowledge the complexity of the DFIG compared to the simpler machines being studied in the original poster's course, indicating a potential gap in foundational knowledge that may affect understanding.

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Hi, I am an EE student that has been helping in my professor's lab. We have a Double Fed Induction Generator set up and it is rotated by a DC motor. It is used for experiments. We have the whole set up running through a controller with a graphical user interface where you can adjust various parameters and see graphs in real time of different things.

As anybody here probably knows, a DFIG has windings on both the stator and rotor. I can control the voltage applied to the rotor windings from a computer. When the generator shaft is rotating, if I increase the rotor voltage, it increases the stator's output voltage. Why? I don't really understand what is going on inside the machine. I can kind of understand how I can control the stator frequency by changing the rotor frequency, but I don't understand why there is such a drastic difference in stator voltage. At 1600rpm, I can get 3.9V rms from the stator if I apply 3 volts to the rotor, or I can get 14.6V rms if I apply 7 volts to the rotor. That is a huge difference.

What is physically happening here?
 
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Prior to experiments, have you studied machine theory from a textbook? Your questions are more on the theoretical side.
 
I am in an introductory course to electric machines, but we aren't covering anything as complicated as a DFIG. We are studying basic simplified DC and AC machines.

The only thing I can think of is that since you have windings on both stator and rotor it is acting as a sort of transformer. The voltage from the rotor is being "stepped up" across on the stator side and added to the voltage induced from being rotated. But I don't know if that is accurate or if there is something more or different at work.
 

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