K Engine Start Probability Calculator

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around calculating the probability that an engine will start successfully ten consecutive times, given a success probability of 0.990 for each start. Participants explore different interpretations and methods for calculating this probability, with a focus on the implications of independence in the outcomes of the starts.

Discussion Character

  • Mathematical reasoning, Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant proposes a detailed approach involving a summation of probabilities for different scenarios of successful and failed starts, suggesting a complex calculation method.
  • Another participant counters with a simpler calculation, stating that the probability of ten consecutive successes is simply 0.990 raised to the power of 10.
  • A third participant questions the clarity of the original question, seeking to understand what specific probability is being asked for.
  • A later reply clarifies that the acceptance of the engine hinges on achieving ten successful starts in a row, reinforcing the simpler calculation presented earlier.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

There is disagreement regarding the method of calculation, with one participant advocating for a complex approach and others supporting a straightforward exponential calculation. The discussion remains unresolved as participants have not reached a consensus on the correct method.

Contextual Notes

The discussion highlights potential misunderstandings regarding the interpretation of the probability question and the assumptions about independence in the outcomes of the engine starts.

Who May Find This Useful

Readers interested in probability theory, particularly in the context of independent events and practical applications in engineering scenarios, may find this discussion relevant.

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I think this is correct. I would appreciate any input.

Question:
The potential buyer of a particular engine requires that the engine start successfully 10 consecutive times. Suppose that the probability of a successful start is .990. Consider that the outcomes of attempted starts is independent. What is the probability that the engine is accepted after just 10 starts?

My solution:

P(x<=10) = p(2) + p(3) +...+ p(10)

where:
p(2) = P(X = 2) = P(S on #1 and S on #2) = p2
p(3) = P(S on #3 and S on #2 and F on #1) = (1 – p)p2
p(4) = P(S on #4 and S on #3 and F on #2) = (1 – p)p2
p(5) = P(S on #5 and S on #4 and F on #3 and no 2 consecutive S’s on trials prior to #3) = [ 1 – p(2) ](1 – p)p2
p(6) = P(S on #6 and S on #5 and F on #4 and no 2 consecutive S’s on trials prior to #4) = [ 1 – p(2) – p(3)](1 – p)p2

In general, for x = 5, 6, 7, …: p(x) = [ 1 – p(2) - … – p(x - 3)](1 – p)p2

Does this make any sense?
AJ
 
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I can't make sense of what you wrote. However the probability of 10 successes in a row is simply .9910.
 
But what is the question asking for, in terms of probability? That's what I don't understand.
 
The buyer will accept the engine if and only if it starts successfully ten consecutive times. This means that the engine is "accepted" if it can start ten times in a row. The question is essentially asking what is the probability of this event occurring? That's why the probability is simply 0.9910 as mathman wrote.
 
hmm ok. Thank you for your help.
 

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