Kinematics and proportionality.

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The problem involves kinematics, specifically examining the relationship between displacement, velocity, and acceleration of a particle moving in a straight line. The original poster explores how velocity, which is proportional to the square root of displacement, influences acceleration and how velocity varies with time given initial conditions.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • The original poster attempts to express velocity as a function of displacement and derive acceleration from it, questioning whether the resulting acceleration is constant. They also explore how to express velocity as a function of time, raising questions about the proportionality of velocity and time.

Discussion Status

Participants are engaging in a back-and-forth discussion about the validity of the original poster's conclusions regarding acceleration and the relationship between velocity and time. Some participants affirm the original poster's reasoning, while others seek clarification on specific steps taken in the derivation.

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There is a focus on the assumptions made regarding the proportionality of velocity to the square root of displacement and the implications of initial conditions on the derived equations. The discussion reflects an exploration of these concepts without reaching a definitive conclusion.

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Hey, please take a look at this problem, it should be quite straight-forward but I want to know if I've reached the right conclusion.

Homework Statement



A particle moves in a straight line with displacement s from some fixed point on the line and velocity v.

If v is proportional to sqrt(s), find the behaviour of the acceleration with s; and if v=0 when t=0, find how v depends on time.

The Attempt at a Solution



I put v = k*sqrt(s) and used a = v*dv/ds = k*sqrt(s)*(1/2)k*s^(-1/2) = (1/2)k^2. So it seems that the s disappears, and therefore the acceleration is constant. Is it correct to say this?

For the second part, I put dv/dt=(1/2)k^2 (the acceleration found above) and solved to give v(t) = (1/2)(k^2)t + c, and c=0 because v=0 when t=0. Hence my conclusion is that v varies with t, i.e. v and t are proportional. Is this right? Thanks.
 
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raphile said:
For the second part, I put dv/dt=(1/2)k^2 (the acceleration found above) and solved to give v(t) = (1/2)(k^2)t + c, and c=0 because v=0 when t=0. Hence my conclusion is that v varies with t, i.e. v and t are proportional. Is this right? Thanks.

If you let v=k\sqrt{s}, then the derivative with respect to s should be
= \frac{k}{2 \sqrt{s}}
 
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But in the part of my post that you quoted, I'm not using s at all. I'm just taking the acceleration that I found in the 1st part, (1/2)k^2, and calling it dv/dt, and then solving that to give v in terms of t. Is it not right to say v and t are proportional?
 
raphile said:
I put v = k*sqrt(s) and used a = v*dv/ds = k*sqrt(s)*(1/2)k*s^(-1/2) = (1/2)k^2. So it seems that the s disappears, and therefore the acceleration is constant. Is it correct to say this?
Looks good to me.
For the second part, I put dv/dt=(1/2)k^2 (the acceleration found above) and solved to give v(t) = (1/2)(k^2)t + c, and c=0 because v=0 when t=0. Hence my conclusion is that v varies with t, i.e. v and t are proportional. Is this right? Thanks.
Again, looks good.
 

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