Kinematics Application Question - Physics 11u

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The discussion revolves around a kinematics application problem involving two sprinters, Maggie and Judy, in a 100-meter race. Participants explore the calculations of acceleration, maximum speed, and the position of each sprinter at a specific time during the race, focusing on the application of motion equations.

Discussion Character

  • Homework-related
  • Mathematical reasoning

Main Points Raised

  • Initial equations for motion are presented to calculate total displacement, acceleration, and maximum speed for both sprinters.
  • Some participants express confusion regarding how to solve for acceleration and final speed with two unknowns in the equations.
  • A suggestion is made to substitute expressions for final speeds in terms of acceleration to simplify the equations.
  • Calculations for Maggie's acceleration and final speed are provided, with a value of 5.43 m/s² for acceleration and 10.87 m/s for final speed.
  • Calculations for Judy's acceleration are also provided, with a value of 3.83 m/s², but there is uncertainty regarding the final speed, initially calculated as 12.00 m/s, later corrected to 11.49 m/s.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree on the method of substitution to solve the equations, but there is disagreement regarding the final speed of Judy, with different values being proposed and corrected throughout the discussion.

Contextual Notes

Some calculations and assumptions regarding the equations may depend on the interpretation of the motion equations and the initial conditions of the problem.

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In a 100 meter race, Maggie and Judy cross the finish line in a dead heat, both taking 10.2 seconds. Accelerating uniformly Maggie took 2.00 seconds and Judy 3.00 seconds to attain maximum speed, which they maintained for the rest of the race.

a)What was the acceleration of each sprinter?
b)What were their respective maximum speeds?
c)Which sprinter was ahead at the 6.00-second mark, and by how much?
 
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Wild ownz al said:
In a 100 meter race, Maggie and Judy cross the finish line in a dead heat, both taking 10.2 seconds. Accelerating uniformly Maggie took 2.00 seconds and Judy 3.00 seconds to attain maximum speed, which they maintained for the rest of the race.

a)What was the acceleration of each sprinter?
b)What were their respective maximum speeds?
c)Which sprinter was ahead at the 6.00-second mark, and by how much?

assuming both started from rest, base equation for motion of each runner ...

total displacement = acceleration displacement + constant speed displacement

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$100 = \dfrac{1}{2}a_m \cdot 2^2 + v_{fm} \cdot 8.2$ where $v_{fm} = a_m \cdot 2$

$100 = \dfrac{1}{2}a_j \cdot 3^2 + v_{fj} \cdot 7.2$ where $v_{fj} = a_j \cdot 3$

these equations should get you both accelerations and their respective final speeds ... can you take it from here?
 
skeeter said:
assuming both started from rest, base equation for motion of each runner ...

total displacement = acceleration displacement + constant speed displacement

---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

$100 = \dfrac{1}{2}a_m \cdot 2^2 + v_{fm} \cdot 8.2$ where $v_{fm} = a_m \cdot 2$

$100 = \dfrac{1}{2}a_j \cdot 3^2 + v_{fj} \cdot 7.2$ where $v_{fj} = a_j \cdot 3$

these equations should get you both accelerations and their respective final speeds ... can you take it from here?

These equations look great but how am I suppose to solve for the acceleration and V-final with two unknown variables in the formulas?
 
Wild ownz al said:
These equations look great but how am I suppose to solve for the acceleration and V-final with two unknown variables in the formulas?

substitute $2a_m$ for $v_{fm}$ in the first equation

substitute $3a_j$ for $v_{fj}$ in the second equationeach equation will then have a single unknown
 
Ok using that logic I got the following:

For maggie:

100=1/2am(2^2)+(2am)(8.2)

am=5.43m/s^2
Vfm=10.87m/s

For Judy:

100=1/2aj+(3aj)(7.2)

aj=3.83m/s^2
Vfj=12.00m/s

Is this correct?
 
Wild ownz al said:
Ok using that logic I got the following:

For maggie:

100=1/2am(2^2)+(2am)(8.2)

am=5.43m/s^2
Vfm=10.87m/s

For Judy:

100=1/2aj(3^2)+(3aj)(7.2)

aj=3.83m/s^2
Vfj= 3aj ...

Is this correct?

$v_f$ for maggie is ok ... recheck your calculation for $v_f$ for judy
 
Judy's Vf is 11.49m/s?

aj = 3.83m/s^2

Vfj = 3aj
Vfj=3(3.83m/s^2)
Vfj=11.49m/s
 
Wild ownz al said:
Judy's Vf is 11.49m/s?

aj = 3.83m/s^2

Vfj = 3aj
Vfj=3(3.83m/s^2)
Vfj=11.49m/s

yep
 

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