How far above the release point will the ball and stone pass each other?

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The problem involves a ball thrown vertically upward with an initial speed of 19 m/s and a stone thrown 0.97 seconds later with an initial speed of 31 m/s. The goal is to determine how far above the release point the ball and stone will pass each other, considering the effects of gravity at -9.8 m/s².

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  • Participants discuss using kinematic equations to find the intersection point of the ball and stone's paths. There are considerations about the time parameters and the need for visualization tools like graphing calculators. Some participants also question how to set up the equations correctly.

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The discussion has progressed with participants offering suggestions for approaches and clarifying the equations involved. One participant reports having figured out the problem after class, indicating some productive direction in the discussion.

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There are constraints mentioned regarding the use of graphing calculators in the class, which may affect participants' ability to visualize the problem. Additionally, the original poster expresses difficulty in understanding the problem setup initially.

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I know I should be able to do this problem but for some reason it's not clicking with me...please help!

Homework Statement


a ball is thrown vertically upward with an initial speed of 19 m/s. Then, .97 s later, a stone is thrown straight up (from the same inital height as the ball) with an inital speed of 31 m/s. How far above the release point will the ball and stone pass each other. Answer is units of m. Gravity is -9.8 m/s^2.


Homework Equations


I tried using v^2=v0^2*2ax and x=x0+v0t+0.5at^2


The Attempt at a Solution


I solved 19(.97)+0.5(-9.8)(.97)^2 and got 13.82 m for the ball after .97 s.

After this I got lost and didn't know what to do. I know this means that when the ball is at 13.82 m/s that the stone is just being thrown. Please help!
 
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Do you have a graphing calculator? If so that might be a handy visualization tool.

You are going to have two kinematic equations with distance as a function of time, and you want where they intersect. You will will probably end up with two answers, which means that one won't make sense and should be thrown out.
 
I used to have one but I have no clue where it is at anymore. We aren't aloud to have them in this class so I have kinda lost track of it while I was moving.
 
Well, your first equation looks okay if you put the time parameter back in.

What does the second one look like?
 
I actually figured it out today right after class (guess it got me in the right type of mode to do it). Sometimes I just don't look at them the way I should be. But what I ended up doing is plugging in 19 m/s for v, -9.8 for g (a) and 0.97 in for t into the equation
v = v0 + at
This gave me the answer of the velocity being 9.494 m/s when the ball is at 0.97 s and 13.82 m.
Next, I plugged these numbers into the eqation
x = x0+ v0t + 0.5at^2
and set this equal to the other side. this ended up looking like
13.82 + 9.494t + 0 = 0+ 31t+ 0
solving for t I got 0.643 s.

finally, I plugged all these numbers I solved for into
x = x0 + v0t +0.5at^2
this looked like
13.82 + 9.494 (0.643) + 0.5 (-9.8) (0.643)^2
The final answer ended up being 17.9 m.

=)
 

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