Kinematics bouncing ball problem

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The problem involves a ball bouncing elastically within a moving train compartment, raising questions about the observed motion of the ball from the ground perspective. The subject area is kinematics, focusing on relative motion and velocity transformations.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the implications of the ball's speed relative to the train versus the ground. Questions are raised about the correctness of multiple-choice options based on the ball's observed velocity and the effects of the train's motion.

Discussion Status

Some participants are clarifying the relationship between the ball's velocity and the train's velocity, while others are questioning the validity of the options provided in the answer sheet. There is an ongoing exploration of how to express the ball's velocity from different reference frames.

Contextual Notes

The discussion includes confusion regarding the interpretation of the observer's perspective and the definitions of velocity in different contexts. The constraints of the multiple-choice format may limit the exploration of these concepts.

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given below is a more than one choice type MCQ,

A ball is bouncing elastically with a speed 1 m/s between walls of
a railway compartment of size 10 m in a direction perpendicular
to walls. The train is moving at a constant velocity of 10 m/s parallel
to the direction of motion of the ball. As seen from the ground,
(a) the direction of motion of the ball changes every 10 seconds.
(b) speed of ball changes every 10 seconds.
(c) average speed of ball over any 20 second interval is fixed.
(d) the acceleration of ball is the same as from the train.

i could not understand what observer at ground will see,is it ball velocity i.e 1m/s or ball velocity relative to train.
please give answer with an explanation
 
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Hi mridulag, welcome to PF.

1 m/s is the speed of the ball with respect to the train.


ehild
 
is it then 1st option be correct .Will the ball will retain its velocity 1m/s unjustyfyng option b?.
IN answer sheet b,c,d options are given correct
 
mridulag said:
is it then 1st option be correct .Will the ball will retain its velocity 1m/s unjustyfyng option b?.
IN answer sheet b,c,d options are given correct

Inside the compartment, the direction of motion of the ball changes every time it bounces off from the compartment wall. How do you express the velocity v of an object observed from the ground, if it has some velocity v' with respect to an object, traveling with velocity V with respect to the ground ?
What is the velocity of the ball observed from the ground when it moves in the same direction as the train, and what is it when it moves backwards inside the compartment?

ehild
 

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