Kinematics- police driver acceleration problem

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The discussion revolves around a kinematics problem involving the calculation of a vehicle's acceleration based on skidmark measurements following a braking event. The original poster describes a scenario where a police investigation measures skidmarks of 150 m and assumes an initial speed of 80 km/h (22 m/s) when the brakes were applied.

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  • Participants discuss the use of kinematic equations to relate initial and final velocities, displacement, and acceleration. Questions arise about the initial conditions and how to interpret the final velocity when the car comes to rest. There is also a consideration of unit conversions and the implications of negative acceleration.

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Participants are actively engaging with the problem, exploring different interpretations of the kinematic equations and discussing the implications of their calculations. Some guidance has been provided regarding the use of specific equations and the significance of negative acceleration, but no consensus has been reached on the final interpretation of the results.

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There is an ongoing discussion about the assumptions made regarding initial and final velocities, as well as the conversion of units from km/h to m/s. The participants are also considering the implications of the negative sign in the acceleration calculation.

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In an accident investigation police measured the skidmarks left my vehicle. they measure the skidmarks to be 150 m from the point where the driver applied the brakes to where the car came to rest. In their investigation the police Sumat the driver was traveling at this bead limit of 80 km/h (22m/s) when the brakes were applied. Calculate the acceleration of the vehicle.

ok so i know acceleration is

d= delta v
----------
delta t

= vf - vi
-------
delta t

but because this question has no initial point. What do I use? Do I just started off as zero OR do I have to solve for something? can someone please help me. thank you
 
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Consider the kinematic relation v_{fx}^2 = v_{ox}^2 + 2as, where v_{fx} = final velocity of car after skid, v_{ox} = velocity of car before skid and\, s = displacement.

Think about what this equation is saying: From the stage of the journey where the car was traveling at 80km/h to the stage of the journey where the car is at rest, it has covered a distance of 150m, and so we can determine it's acceleration using the above relation.
 
CAF123 said:
Consider the kinematic relation v_{fx}^2 = v_{ox}^2 + 2as, where v_{fx} = final velocity of car after skid, v_{ox} = velocity of car before skid and\, s = displacement.

Think about what this equation is saying: From the stage of the journey where the car was traveling at 80km/h to the stage of the journey where the car is at rest, it has covered a distance of 150m, and so we can determine it's acceleration using the above relation.

ok so my s is 150m and my initial veloticy is 80km but i need to put that into m/s.. how do i find the final velocity?
 
The final velocity is given to you in the question. The words 'at rest' mean the car has halted to zero velocity.
 
ok so its just 0... so i just sub everything into the equaiton?
 
Yes. Notice the negative sign for acceleration. What does this mean?
 
because it is slowing down that's why it is negative
 
Yes, but to be a little bit more precise, if the car is defined to be moving in positive x direction and slowing down, then the acceleration vector would point in the negative x direction. Thus we get a 'negative acceleration' ( which is more precise than the word 'deceleration' used in everyday life)
 
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ok so 80km/h is 22m/s

so..

0=22^2+2a(150)
0= 484+a300
-484=a300

-484
------ = a
300

-1.61 = a is it still in m/s?
 
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or should i have stuck with 80km... and i would of got -21.3 km/h (i think that's the units not ti sure)
 
  • #11
It is always best to rearrange the equation for the given quantity required. (This does help in figuring out the units).

So the kinematic relation rearranged for a yields a = \frac {v_{fx}^2 - v_{ox}^2}{2s},
If we replace each physical quantity with its units we end up with a= \frac{m^2/s^2}{m} from which you see one m cancels top and bottom to give m/s2 as the units.

However, having said that, with these sorts of quantities that we use 'all the time' in physics, they become second nature after a while. So this 'dimensional analysis', as it is called, is not required all the time, only when dealing with unfamiliar expressions.
 
  • #12
The definition of acceleration is the change in velocity per unit time. So this -1.61 m/s2 means the car slows down at a rate of 1.61 m/s every second.
 
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