Kinematics Question. Incline, Spring, Friction

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The discussion revolves around a kinematics problem involving an incline, a spring, and friction, as part of a practice problem for a midterm examination. Participants are exploring the dynamics of a block on an inclined plane influenced by spring force and frictional forces.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants are attempting to incorporate friction into their calculations and are questioning how to properly account for static and kinetic friction forces. There is a focus on the relationship between spring force and friction for the block to move.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants offering hints and guidance regarding the consideration of friction and the necessary conditions for movement. There are multiple interpretations of the problem setup being explored, particularly regarding the forces acting on the block.

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Participants are working under the constraints of a homework problem, which may limit the information available for solving the problem. There is uncertainty about the correct values for friction and spring displacement in the context of the problem.

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Homework Statement


Practice problem for midterm.
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Homework Equations


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T_1+U_1=T_2+U_2
U_spring=1/2kx^2

The Attempt at a Solution


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Set X-axis along the 30 degree line and the Y-axis perpendicular.

I'm not sure how to consider the friction constant into the formula.

Any help is very much appreciated.
 
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hint: work against friction.
 
Calculate the friction forces (static and kinetic). Make sure the block can move when released (static friction). If the block moves against friction (kinetic friction), what work is done? What happens to the energy involved in friction?
 
sumF_y=0
N-mgcos30=0
N=17 N

sumF_x=0
F_spring-F_friction=m_block*accel_block
kx-uN=ma

if static, accel=0

410(0.5)-u(17)=0
u=12.06

doesnt seem right... i think the x is wrong for the spring but i can't visualize it.
 
You want to compare the spring force with the static friction force. What must the relationship be if the block is to be able to move from rest?
 

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