Calculating Initial Speed of Bullet After Collision with Spring-Mounted Block

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The problem involves a bullet colliding with a spring-mounted block, where the goal is to calculate the initial speed of the bullet based on the compression of the spring after the collision. The context includes concepts from mechanics, specifically conservation of momentum and energy.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants discuss using conservation of momentum and energy to relate the initial speed of the bullet to the system's energy after the collision. There are attempts to calculate elastic potential energy and kinetic energy, with some participants questioning the relationship between the speeds before and after the collision.

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The discussion has progressed with participants sharing their approaches and calculations. Some guidance has been offered regarding the use of conservation laws, and there appears to be a productive exchange of ideas, though no consensus on a final solution has been reached.

Contextual Notes

Participants note the assumption of negligible friction and the specific parameters of the problem, such as the spring constant and masses involved. There is an acknowledgment of the challenge faced during a test scenario.

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Friction is negligible

A bullet traveling at speed v hits a wooden block which is attached to a spring with constant 200 N/m. After the impact if the spring compresses to a maximum of 0.1m and the mass of the bullet is 0.01kg and the mass of the block is 0.5kg find the initial speed of the bullet?

This was on my test today and I didn't get the answer, how would you go about doing this question?
 
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Why not show us how you tried to solve it?

Hint: you'll need to use both conservation of momentum and conservation of energy.
 
I found the Elastic potential energy first to see the energy of the whole system by using:

1/2kx^2


Then since the kinetic energy must equal the total energy before the spring is stretch, I did:

1/2kx^2=1/2mv^2 and I solved for V
 
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Then since the kinetic energy must equal the total energy before the spring is stretch, I did:

1/2kx^2=1/2mv^2 and I solved for V
That's the speed of the block plus bullet---after the collision. Now find the speed of the bullet before the collision. (Re-read my previous hint.)
 
So momentum is conserved...


mv1+mv2=mv1'+mv2'
v1'=v2'=v'
v2=0
mv1=v'(m1+m2)


So I think to get v':

1/2kx^2=1/2mv^2

The energy came out to 1 Joule.

Equation I joule with kinetic energy :

2=(m1+m2)v^2
v=sqrt(2/m1+m2)

Now that I think equals v' right?

Subbing that back into the equation we can solve for v1

Is that somewhat right?
 
It is exactly right. Good job!
 
Thanks for the help Doc :smile: I just wish I thought of that during the test
 

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