Kinetic Energy of 0.2 kg Ball with 20 m/s Velocity

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The discussion revolves around calculating the kinetic energy of a 0.2 kg ball thrown at an angle of 30 degrees with an initial velocity of 20 m/s. Participants are exploring the relationship between the components of velocity and kinetic energy at the top of the ball's trajectory.

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  • Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

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  • The original poster questions why only the horizontal component of velocity is used to calculate kinetic energy at the top of the trajectory, suggesting confusion about the application of the kinetic energy formula. Other participants clarify that at the peak, the vertical component of velocity is zero, thus only the horizontal component contributes to kinetic energy.

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Participants are actively engaging with the problem, providing explanations and clarifications regarding the components of velocity and their impact on kinetic energy. There is a productive exchange of ideas, with some participants affirming the reasoning presented by others.

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There is an emphasis on understanding the distinction between horizontal and vertical components of velocity in the context of projectile motion. The original poster's uncertainty reflects common assumptions about velocity in kinetic energy calculations.

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I realize this problem is like ridiculously easy, but I just don't understand why you get the answer this way.

A 0.2 kg ball is thrown with an initial velocity of 20 m/s at an angle of 30 degrees with respect to the horizontal. What is the kinetic energy of the ball at the top of it's path?

I don't understand why in order to get the answer, you have to use the horizontal velocity componenent, Vx. Shouldn't you just use the velocity as given, and plug it into .5mv^2? Thanks
 
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KE = ½mv², where v is the velocity of the ball.

After projection, the ball's velocity can be resolved into horizontal and vertical components. So it's KE at any particular time is,

KE = \frac{1}{2}mv_H^2 + \frac{1}{2}mv_V^2

But at the top of it's flight, v_V = 0. so only the horizontal velocity needs to be considered.
 
great explanation
 
u must take note that you are projecting the object at an angle of 30 degrees not vertically upwards. Thus, there is velocity also in the horizontal component. Since there is velocity in the horizontal component, there must also be KE in the direction also.
 
K=(1/2) mv^2

Here, v is the speed. That is:

v = \sqrt{{v_H}^2 + {v_V}^2}

where v_H is the horizontal component of the velocity, and v_V is the vertical component.

Plugging this into the formula for kinetic energy, we get Fermat's result (above):

K = (1/2) m ({v_H}^2 + {v_V}^2) = (1/2) m{v_H}^2 + (1/2)m{v_V}^2

In this particular example, at the top of the flight, we have:

v_H = 20\cos 30\deg
v_V = 0
 

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