Kissinger's very strange remarks

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The discussion revolves around a quote attributed to Henry Kissinger regarding the manipulation of public perception in the face of external threats, specifically referencing an "extraterrestrial" scenario. Participants explore the implications of this statement, its historical context, and its parallels to contemporary issues, including terrorism and government authority.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants suggest that Kissinger's statement reflects a manipulation of public sentiment and a willingness to relinquish individual rights for perceived safety.
  • Others argue that the interpretation of Kissinger's remarks as implying extraterrestrial threats is misguided, attributing confusion to poor word choice.
  • One participant draws parallels between Kissinger's comments and historical instances of propaganda, such as Goebbels' statements and themes in popular culture like Robotech and Watchmen.
  • Another participant critiques Kissinger's legacy, suggesting that his views are not aligned with the principles of liberty.
  • There is a suggestion that the "extraterrestrial" scenario could be easily swapped with a terrorism narrative, questioning the validity of the latter's evidence compared to UFO claims.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing interpretations of Kissinger's remarks, with no consensus on their implications or the validity of the extraterrestrial analogy. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the broader implications of the statement.

Contextual Notes

Some participants highlight the ambiguity in Kissinger's wording, particularly the use of "beyond," which may lead to varied interpretations. The discussion also touches on the historical context of propaganda and public manipulation without reaching a definitive conclusion.

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What do people make of the following quote, attributed to Kissinger? It reminds me of Ronald Reagan's comments regarding an extraterrestrial threat to Earth(which he made at the UN, around about the same time as this).

"Today, America would be outraged if U.N. troops entered Los Angeles to restore order [referring to the 1991 LA Riot]. Tomorrow they will be grateful! This is especially true if they were told that there were an outside threat from beyond [i.e., an "extraterrestrial" invasion], whether real or promulgated, that threatened our very existence. It is then that all peoples of the world will plead to deliver them from this evil. The one thing every man fears is the unknown. When presented with this scenario, individual rights will be willingly relinquished for the guarantee of their well-being granted to them by the World Government."
- Dr. Henry Kissinger, Bilderberger Conference, Evians, France, 1991
 
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I think the interpretation is reading too far into a poorly constructed statement about how easy people are to manipulate.
 
"...individual rights will be willingly relinquished for the guarantee of their well-being granted to them by the World Government."

Kissenger has never been a friend of liberty.
 
Swap ET for Osama

I agree HAVOC. Kissinger got the Nobel Peace Prize for genocide.

To me, Kissinger’s comments are haunting.
It seems like an “extraterrestrial” scenario was simply swapped for a “terrorism” scenario. After all, Osama Bin Laden, his terrorism “network” and Saddam’s “weapons of mass destruction” seem to be more elusive than any “alien” of “UFO” has ever been. In fact, I think that more hard evidence of UFOs/aliens exist than ANY SHRED of evidence to back-up the current terrorism fairy stories.
Swap ET for an Arab with a beard who worships Allah, make him out to be hell-bent on destroying the American way of life. Yeh, who needs ET when you can create an arch-villain out of thin air?
 
There is nothing extra-terrestrial implied by Kissinger's remarks, poorly worded or not. The word "beyond" is the poor word choice confusing you (and others, as I've seen the quote with the same interpretation inserted into it in other places on the net).
 
This is not only a restatement of Goebbel's statements from WWII, but is also the plot of the 1980's cult classic cartoon Robotech, as well as a plot element of the brilliant graphic novel Watchmen.

Come on guys...
 

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