Kucinich to file articles of impeachment against Cheney

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The discussion revolves around Congressman Dennis Kucinich's decision to file articles of impeachment against Vice President Dick Cheney. Participants explore the implications of this move, the motivations behind it, and the broader context of impeachment in relation to the Bush administration.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants express skepticism about Kucinich's motives, questioning whether the impeachment is genuinely intended to address wrongdoing or if it serves political purposes.
  • One participant acknowledges Cheney's role in spreading false claims and suggests that impeaching Cheney might be a strategic compromise for those who want to see both Bush and Cheney removed from office.
  • Another participant argues that impeaching Bush would be ineffective if Cheney remains in power, emphasizing that Cheney is the more significant offender.
  • There is a sentiment that the impeachment process should not set a precedent that could affect future administrations, with concerns about the Bush administration being viewed as a constitutional aberration.
  • Participants generally agree on the desire to remove Cheney first, reflecting a consensus on the priority of impeachment actions.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

While there is some agreement on the need to prioritize Cheney's impeachment, participants express differing views on the motivations behind Kucinich's actions and the implications for future administrations. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the overall effectiveness and appropriateness of the impeachment strategy.

Contextual Notes

Participants reference the importance of precedent in legal and political contexts, highlighting concerns about the implications of impeachment actions on future administrations. There is an acknowledgment of the complexity surrounding the motivations and consequences of such political maneuvers.

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... The decision to lodge impeachment charges against the Vice President marked a new direction for Kucinich. Last year, he declined to support former Rep. Cynthia McKinney's (D-GA) impeachment charges against President George W. Bush, according to the Atlanta Progressive News. But after posting a video on his campaign website saying that he would consult voters as he campaigned around the country, the Congressman appears to have decided to move ahead with the impeachment charges against the Vice President.

The Congressman explained his rationale in the video.[continued]
http://rawstory.com/news/2007/Kucinich_set_to_announce_Articles_of_0424.html

I can only hope that his motives are sincere and that this is not intended solely as a means to political gain.
 
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One thing about this guy that does make sense. I don't agree yet but I need to think about it more. He argues that Cheney was the biggest offender in spreading false claims, which is true. He also argues that we certainly don't want to impeach Bush if Cheney is VP, which God knows that IS true. And finally, maybe he implied this or perhaps it is my own idea, but this is somewhat a compromise between those like me who want Bush & Cheney thrown out, and those who feel that this would be too traumatic and too much a distraction to be in the nation's best interest. The problem that I still have is that the law is based on precedence, and this admin cannot be allowed to set precedence for future admins. The entire Bush admin must ultimately be viewed as an aberration and a Constitutional abomination.
 
Ivan,

DK makes a lot of sense on many issues, including this one. Bush is a dupe, maybe delusional, maybe not, but incompetent in every instance he has been employed. He in a year could not dream up what Cheney thinks in a day. And so impeachment of Bush makes no sense at all. The real assasin is then free to roam. A dbl impeachment would be nigh impossible. To me it makes sense to remove the offender first, rather than the puppet.
 
I guess no matter what happens afterwards, we want Cheney out first.
 

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