Lagrangian for straight line in XY-plane (dependent on time)

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The discussion focuses on deriving the Lagrangian for a straight line in the XY-plane, emphasizing the relationship between velocity components and arclength. The key conclusion is that the ratios \(\frac{\dot q_x}{L}\) and \(\frac{\dot q_y}{L}\) are constants, leading to the equations \(x(s) = x_0 + s\cos\alpha\) and a similar expression for \(y(s)\). The conversation also touches on the equivalence of using the energy integral \(g_{ij}\dot x^i\dot x^j=const\) to compute geodesics without relying on the functional \(\int\sqrt{g_{ij}\dot x^i\dot x^j}dt\).

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Really stuck on this one. Any help (even a slight nudge in the right direction) would be greatly appreciated. Seems I am hitting a fundamental barrier in the Lagrangian formulation.

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You have that <br /> \frac{d}{dt} \frac{\partial L}{\partial \dot q_x} = \frac{d}{dt} \frac{\dot q_x}{\sqrt{\dot q_x^2 + \dot q_y^2}} = \frac{d}{dt} \frac{\dot q_x}{L} = 0. That tells you that \dot q_x/L is a constant. Similarly \dot q_y/L is constant, and since (\dot q_x/L)^2 + (\dot q_y/L)^2 = 1 you can set <br /> \frac{\partial L}{\partial \dot q_x} = \frac{\dot q_x}L = \cos \alpha,\qquad <br /> \frac{\partial L}{\partial \dot q_y} = \frac{\dot q_y}L = \sin \alpha. But now in terms of arclength s you have <br /> \frac{dx}{ds} = \frac{\dot q_x}{L} = \cos \alpha so x(s) = x_0 + s\cos\alpha and a similar result for dy/ds.
 
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Is your solution above an example of a canonical transformation? I admit I don't quite get it yet, but I'm getting closer. Thank you very much for your help, btw.
 
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Actually, there is no need to use functional ##\int\sqrt{g_{ij}\dot x^i\dot x^j}dt## to compute geodesics. Due to the energy integral ##g_{ij}\dot x^i\dot x^j=const## and parametric invariance , the geodesics can equivalently be determined from the functional
##\int g_{ij}\dot x^i\dot x^jdt##
 
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