Late Bloomers: Math & Physics Success Stories

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The discussion centers around the experiences and stories of individuals who began studying mathematics and physics later in life. Participants share anecdotes, inquire about famous late bloomers, and explore the motivations behind pursuing advanced degrees in these fields, particularly focusing on the concept of "PhD hobbyists."

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants inquire about famous individuals who started studying math and physics late in life, seeking examples and stories.
  • There is a discussion about the term "PhD hobbyist," with some suggesting it refers to those pursuing a PhD for love of the subject rather than for financial gain.
  • One participant expresses the belief that most people pursue PhDs out of passion, while others suggest that financial motivations can also play a role.
  • Some participants share their personal experiences, noting when they began studying math and physics and expressing a desire to have started earlier.
  • A participant mentions a specific example of someone who returned to education later in life, obtaining a degree in physics after initially studying biology.
  • There are differing views on the financial benefits of obtaining a PhD in math and physics, with some claiming it does not significantly enhance income potential, while others argue that it can lead to higher earnings.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express a range of views regarding the motivations for pursuing a PhD and the financial implications of such a degree. There is no consensus on whether financial gain is a primary motivator for all PhD candidates, nor is there agreement on the income benefits associated with a PhD in math and physics.

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Some statements reflect personal opinions and experiences, which may not be universally applicable. The discussion includes assumptions about motivations for pursuing advanced degrees and the financial implications of such pursuits, which may vary widely among individuals.

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For fun let me ask:

Anybody know anyone that started Math and Physics very late in their life?
Any famous people who did that?
What was the latest?

Anyone know any PhD hobbyist?

Any comments about trying it?
 
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What is a PhD hobbyist? I was thinking that you might be referring to people who do a PhD as a hobby, but that's really unlikely I suppose, unless one were referring to philosophy. No offence to the philosophers.
 
Someone that does a PhD for non-monetary reasons or without a burning desire to prove oneself; but rather, most likely, for the sheer love of the subject matter.
 
I thought everyone who does PhDs would do it for passion and not money.
 
A PhD does little to enhance your potential income earning capabilities. I would say that I started maths and physics in my 3rd year at University; I wish I'd started sooner.
 
Defennder said:
I thought everyone who does PhDs would do it for passion and not money.

I knew I would get that response. Still there are those that need the money that the PhD generates - and so, are often led down a path that they might not otherwise follow because of it even if it.

Anyway, any greats - I think Fermat and de Broglie might fit in this category - or just regular folk that anyone knows of that fit this characterization? Also, how about the late starters?
 
neu said:
A PhD does little to enhance your potential income earning capabilities. I would say that I started maths and physics in my 3rd year at University; I wish I'd started sooner.

Thanks for your reply.
See my previous post.
 
g_sanguinetti said:
For fun let me ask:

Anybody know anyone that started Math and Physics very late in their life?
Any famous people who did that?
What was the latest?

Anyone know any PhD hobbyist?

Any comments about trying it?

I did. Messed up high-school because I didn't care. Two years later I'm double-majoring in Math and Physics. I love it.
 
Thanks for your reply.

Young Man.

:-)

How about some real late starters.

You can still be a professional at it.

{Now there are two categories:
Those that start late and those that don't need the money.

:-) }
 
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g_sanguinetti said:
Thanks for your reply.

Young Man.

:-)

How about some real late starters.

You can still be a professional at it.

{Now there are two categories:
Those that start late and those that don't need the money.

:-) }

my girlfriends mother, got a B.S in biology when she graduated college. 26 years later she went back and got a degree in physics
 
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Now you are talking.

: - )
 
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neu said:
A PhD does little to enhance your potential income earning capabilities. I would say that I started maths and physics in my 3rd year at University; I wish I'd started sooner.

Actually, in Math and particularly Physics a PhD does increase your income a sizeable amount. . . That's what I have heard.
With out it income is fairly low. A Master's degree can allow you to teach at the Community College level, though; which isn't too bad.
 

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