Learn Physics: Tips for 14-Year-Olds

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The discussion revolves around the challenges and strategies for a 14-year-old interested in learning physics, despite not having a strong background in math or a clear career path in the subject. Participants explore resources, study habits, and the relationship between math skills and understanding physics.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses a desire to learn physics but feels hindered by a lack of math homework completion and a lack of interest in pursuing it as a career.
  • Another suggests starting with the book "Thinking Physics," highlighting its suitability for the participant's age and its practical approach.
  • Some participants inquire about free resources for learning geometry, expressing a desire to prepare for future studies.
  • There is a discussion about the importance of math skills in physics, with some arguing that a strong grasp of math is essential for success in physics courses.
  • One participant mentions that their perception of physics may change with further exposure and study, suggesting that early experiences may not reflect future interests.
  • Another participant emphasizes the need to actively engage with math to learn it effectively, rather than just seeking methods to learn without practice.
  • Concerns are raised about the varying levels of comfort with geometry and algebra among participants, indicating that individual interests may affect performance in these subjects.

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Participants express a mix of agreement and disagreement regarding the relationship between math skills and success in physics. While some believe a strong math foundation is crucial, others share personal experiences that suggest varying degrees of correlation between math proficiency and interest or success in physics.

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Participants mention different levels of math knowledge, including geometry, algebra, and calculus, which may affect their ability to engage with physics concepts. There is also a recognition that individual learning styles and interests play a significant role in how participants approach these subjects.

Who May Find This Useful

Young learners interested in physics, educators looking for resources to recommend, and parents seeking ways to support their children's interest in STEM subjects may find this discussion beneficial.

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I want to learn physics but here are the problems: I am only 14(almost 15) and i never did my math homework or science either so i can't get into an accelerated class(i can do the work in the higher classes thoguh, I am smarter than all the other kids)the second problem is i don't plan on going to collage because physics isn't my what I am into the most so i don't want to make a career out of it, so what do i do abought it?
 
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Stratosphere said:
I want to learn physics but here are the problems: I am only 14(almost 15) and i never did my math homework or science either so i can't get into an accelerated class(i can do the work in the higher classes thoguh, I am smarter than all the other kids)the second problem is i don't plan on going to collage because physics isn't my what I am into the most so i don't want to make a career out of it, so what do i do abought it?

Maybe start with this book, "Thinking Physics"

https://www.amazon.com/dp/0935218068/?tag=pfamazon01-20

It's pretty cheap in the paperback edition, and it's a fun and interesting intro to Physics, targeted at about your age level, with lots of practical things to try out. I bought a copy for my 14/15 year old son for Xmas.
 
Anything for free? i downloaded some other books in pdf but there too hard i don't know geometry or trigonometry or clacules(i know i miss spelled that)

Edit: I did Learn a lot abought physics and astronomy, its not like i don't have a clue abought it.
 
berkeman said:
Maybe start with this book, "Thinking Physics"

https://www.amazon.com/dp/0935218068/?tag=pfamazon01-20

It's pretty cheap in the paperback edition, and it's a fun and interesting intro to Physics, targeted at about your age level, with lots of practical things to try out. I bought a copy for my 14/15 year old son for Xmas.

I second that, great book. Tell your parents to buy it for you or get it from the library.
 
Is it possible to leanr geometry online? i take geometry next year but i want to see if I can leanr it now so i can start to read some of those books i downloaded.
 
At fourteen it's too early to know what you want as a career or even what you plan on studying beyond high school (if anything), but you should be encouraged to explore your interests. If you're really interested in physics, I would suggest that you talk to a guidance councilor at your school and see if you can get into the class that you want to take.

Secondly, it's never too late to change your study habits. If you really plan on learning physics - there's a lot of homework involved.
 
i don't mide doing homework the only reason i never did it before was because it was too easy.
 
Stratosphere said:
i don't mide doing homework the only reason i never did it before was because it was too easy.

If/when you go to college, it won't be.
 
So as i asked beofre, is there a way I can learn geomerty without waiting for next years math class?
 
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Stratosphere said:
So as i asked beofre, is there a way I can learn geomerty without waiting for next years math class?

how are your algebra skills?
 
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sorry this bothered me "about"

Your perception of physics seems off. Judging by your current math level I would assume whatever physics class you took was tailored to your level. This certainly won't be the case in college. Anyway, don't let your early exposure stear you away from physics as your perception of it will undoubtably change. For the better or the worse, I cannot say.

As for learning geometry. If you didn't have trouble with algebra I would assume you will do fine in geometry. There are many online lectures you could view to supplement your text if you have one. You could inquire into which text you will be using next year and use that. Although if your math cirriculum is like mine was until you take precalculus you may be using several small soft bound books throughout the year, none of which are organized like a textbook. With physicsforum, textbooks, lectures, the internet, teachers etc, you should be able to learn geometry.

Keep in mind to learn math you actually have to DO it. People often think of elaborate methods of how they can learn but never actually DO the work. Get a book and DO the math!
 
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What about physics do you like exactly? If you weren't doing math homework because it was too easy, why not do the homework and then get into accelerated classes where you should be if the current is too easy. I am a senior in high school and took my first physics class last year with not much knowledge about it before. You will be surprised how much math is in physics. I consider physics to be another math class, just more applied, and its harder in many ways because of the concepts you have to think of. I must say though that I don't know anyone who is good at physics or even really enjoys it without having a very firm grasp on a lot of math.


Also what about geometry do you need to know? You should be able to do a lot of physics with simple trig like sin/cos functions.

berkeman said:
It's pretty cheap in the paperback edition, and it's a fun and interesting intro to Physics, targeted at about your age level, with lots of practical things to try out. I bought a copy for my 14/15 year old son for Xmas.

That is an interesting christmas present berkeman! I kinda chuckled at the idea of opening a physics book for christmas, but at the same time I honestly wish my parents would have got me involved in physics when I was younger.
 
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lax1113 said:
That is an interesting christmas present berkeman! I kinda chuckled at the idea of opening a physics book for christmas, but at the same time I honestly wish my parents would have got me involved in physics when I was younger.

Great Christmas present! In all seriousness, I think the world would be a much better place if more parents gave thoughtful gifts like this rather than the newest ipod/games/etc.
 
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Nabeshin, while I completely agree that books about physics=great, so do ipods :smile:

Ipod touch was a great christmas present
 
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mbisCool said:
As for learning geometry. If you didn't have trouble with algebra I would assume you will do fine in geometry.
I completely disagree with this statement. Without trying to sound cocky, when it comes to algebra, I rank as the top of my year. But as for geometry, well, I can barely pass those exams. It's all about what interests you, and geometry never caught my fancy.
For beginner geometry, there is no need for a lot of skill in algebra, but this changes slightly as the geometry becomes more complex.

lax1113 said:
I must say though that I don't know anyone who is good at physics or even really enjoys it without having a very firm grasp on a lot of math.
I second that!
 

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