Learn Topology: Resources for Beginners

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The discussion revolves around resources and approaches for learning topology, particularly for beginners. Participants share their experiences, suggest materials, and debate the prerequisites for studying topology, including the relevance of real and complex analysis.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant seeks recommendations for free resources or books on topology available in public libraries.
  • Another participant suggests the MIT OpenCourseWare site as a potential starting point for learning topology.
  • A participant shares their personal experience studying topology using Munkres' book and completing assignments from a specific course webpage, highlighting the effectiveness of seeking help from a professor.
  • Some participants propose that basic topology should be learned through complex analysis, arguing that it provides context for topological concepts related to holomorphic functions.
  • There is a question about whether two homeomorphic manifolds can be guaranteed to be diffeomorphic, with one participant noting that in dimensions 1, 2, and 3, all homeomorphic smooth manifolds are diffeomorphic.
  • Examples of exotic spheres and exotic \(\mathbb{R}^4\) are mentioned as cases where homeomorphic manifolds are not diffeomorphic, indicating the complexity of the topic.
  • Some participants discuss the necessity of prerequisites for topology, with differing opinions on the importance of real analysis versus complex analysis as foundational knowledge.
  • One participant expresses concern about studying topology without a background in real or complex analysis, prompting further discussion on the relevance of these subjects.

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Participants express differing views on the best resources for learning topology and the necessary prerequisites. There is no consensus on whether real analysis or complex analysis is more beneficial as a foundation for studying topology.

Contextual Notes

Some participants note that public libraries may not carry topology books, and there is uncertainty regarding the accessibility of certain resources. The discussion also highlights the varying levels of mathematical background among participants, which may influence their learning paths.

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I want to learn topology but I can't find any good resources (except for thoughtspacezero on youtube, which got a bit difficult to understand after a few videos). Can you suggest some materials?

Thanks in advance!
 
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I mean free resources or books you can find in normal public libraries (I don't have direct access to college or university libraries).

Thanks again!
 
I studied topology on my own last summer by reading Topology by Munkres and doing all of the assignments on this page (including all of the problems that were not required):

http://people.math.gatech.edu/~etnyre/class/4431Fall09/index.html

I asked a professor for help whenever I got stuck for too long. It worked out great for me - I took a graduate level course that used Lee's Introduction to Smooth Manifolds the following semester and got an A. So, that is my anecdote on teaching oneself topology.
 
In my opinion, basic topology should be learned through Complex Analysis..This approach supplies a context for topological ideas showing how they arise naturally from problems of understanding holomorphic functions. The ideas generalize easily to algebraic topology, differential topology, and the topology of metric spaces.
 
http://www.math.uiowa.edu/~jsimon/COURSES/M132Fall07/?C=M;O=A
 
Hi, I am a newbie in topology :D
I wanted to know if there are 2 homeomorphic manifold, can we make sure its diffeomorphic?
If there are 2 homeomorphic manifold but it isn't diffeomorphic, Can you give me some example??...
I am really sorry if my English is bad, I am Vietnamese :D
 
alice chen said:
Hi, I am a newbie in topology :D
I wanted to know if there are 2 homeomorphic manifold, can we make sure its diffeomorphic?
If there are 2 homeomorphic manifold but it isn't diffeomorphic, Can you give me some example??...
I am really sorry if my English is bad, I am Vietnamese :D

What you are asking is very difficult. In turns out that in dimensions 1,2 and 3, all homeomorphic smooth manifolds are in fact diffeomorphic! Thus any example of homeomorphic, non-diffeomorphic manifolds will be an abstract example in a dimension higher than 3!

One such manifolds are the so-called exotic spheres. These are very cool manifolds which are homeomorphic with the unit sphere in \mathbb{R}^n,n>3, but not diffeomorphic. As you can guess, the construction and the study of exotic spheres is very difficult and it is still an active part of research! See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Exotic_sphere

Other examples are Exotic \mathbb{R}^4's, these are manifolds homeomorphic to \mathbb{R}^4 but not diffeomorphic. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Exotic_R4
 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diffeomorphism
has a good discussion of this under the section:
Homeomorphism and diffeomorphism.

Here is a homeomorphism that is not a diffeomorphism:
f(x) = x for x on (0,1)
f(x) = 3x - 2 for x on [1,2)
is a homeomorphism of (0,2) with (0,4), but not a diffeomorphism (not differentiable at x=1).
But (0,1) is diffeomorphic with (0,4) via g(x) = 4x.

Is your question geometrically equivalent to: Can all the kinks be removed from a (topological) manifold?
(I say 'topological manifold' but I guess differentiable manifolds need not be second countable or Hausdorff?..)
 
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Monocles said:
I studied topology on my own last summer by reading Topology by Munkres and doing all of the assignments on this page (including all of the problems that were not required):

http://people.math.gatech.edu/~etnyre/class/4431Fall09/index.html

I asked a professor for help whenever I got stuck for too long. It worked out great for me - I took a graduate level course that used Lee's Introduction to Smooth Manifolds the following semester and got an A. So, that is my anecdote on teaching oneself topology.

Can I do the same without a background in neither Real analysis nor Complex analysis ?

(My Math Background includes Calculus I,II & II, Linear algebra, diff. eqns and probability)
 
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lavinia said:
In my opinion, basic topology should be learned through Complex Analysis..This approach supplies a context for topological ideas showing how they arise naturally from problems of understanding holomorphic functions. The ideas generalize easily to algebraic topology, differential topology, and the topology of metric spaces.

So the prerequisite is only complex analysis ?

What about Real analysis ?
 
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You don't really need any prerequisites for topology. However, the more analysis courses you have taken, the better. I had my first topology class with real analysis already behind me, and it made life much easier. Familiarity with concepts such as metric spaces, open and closed sets, compactness can make topology much more intuitive.

So, I suggest to take real analysis first and then take topology. You don't need to do it this way (many people do it the other way), but I feel this is easiest...
 
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micromass said:
You don't really need any prerequisites for topology. However, the more analysis courses you have taken, the better. I had my first topology class with real analysis already behind me, and it made life much easier. Familiarity with concepts such as metric spaces, open and closed sets, compactness can make topology much more intuitive.

So, I suggest to take real analysis first and then take topology. You don't need to do it this way (many people do it the other way), but I feel this is easiest...

Thank you very much, but I have seen many suggesting taking topology though complex
analysis, not real analysis, any ideas?
 

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