Learning E&M with Calc I: What Textbook Should I Use?

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The discussion centers on the appropriate textbooks for studying electromagnetism (E&M) given a limited mathematical background, specifically only having completed Calculus I and currently working on Calculus II. Participants explore whether to start with a more accessible textbook or to focus on advancing their math skills before tackling E&M.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants suggest starting with 'Physics for Scientists and Engineers' by Serway as it aligns with the current math background.
  • Others argue that a foundational understanding of calculus, particularly Calculus II and III, is necessary to grasp E&M concepts, especially vector calculus related to Maxwell's equations.
  • A few participants recommend 'Physics' by Halliday/Resnick as a potential introductory text after completing the necessary math courses.
  • 'Berkeley Physics Course' by Purcell is mentioned as a good intermediate option that could be manageable with some extra effort.
  • There is a suggestion that self-studying non-calculus based E&M is acceptable, but caution is advised against taking a non-calculus based course if the goal is to understand calculus-based E&M later.
  • Participants express a willingness to compare the recommended textbooks, indicating a desire for more information on their suitability for the current math level.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree that a solid understanding of calculus is important for studying E&M, but there is disagreement on whether to start with a non-calculus based approach or to focus on advancing math skills first. Multiple competing views remain regarding the best textbook options.

Contextual Notes

Some participants note the importance of completing Calculus II and III for a better understanding of E&M, particularly regarding vector calculus, but do not resolve the implications of self-studying E&M prior to completing these courses.

Who May Find This Useful

Individuals with a limited math background seeking to study electromagnetism, as well as those interested in textbook recommendations for introductory physics courses.

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I want to study electromagnetism, but my math background is only calc I (working on calc II right now). Is there a good textbook on E&M that is appropriate for my background? 'Physics for scientists and engineers' by Serway was recommended but I'd like to cross-check with the community.

Or, would you recommend focusing on calc II / III so I can get a better understanding of E&M with a more math heavy book?
 
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The best you can do right now is the study elementary E&M (as part of the general physics curriculum). Unforunately, you can't go on a higher level than that, because of the lack of math (and physics) knowledge. I'd say go ahead and start working on Serway's book.

Once you got the basics covered down (and finished the calculus and general physics sequence), then you can start working on an intermediate-level E&M textbook, probably at the level of Griffiths.
 
quantum13 said:
I want to study electromagnetism, but my math background is only calc I (working on calc II right now). Is there a good textbook on E&M that is appropriate for my background? 'Physics for scientists and engineers' by Serway was recommended but I'd like to cross-check with the community.

Or, would you recommend focusing on calc II / III so I can get a better understanding of E&M with a more math heavy book?

Learning vector calculus (generally calculus 3) is very important in EM. The best example are Maxwell equations. You won't understand them if you only have calculus II under your belt.

As for the book, when you're done with the math, Physics by Halliday/Resnick might be a good introduction to electricity and magnetism. Then "Berkeley Physics course" by Purcell is also a good choice, though the level is intermediate.
 
With your math background, you will be able to tackle Purcell with a little extra effort. Purcell is a good book and will be a good prelude to something like Griffiths.
 
the prerequisites for Physics II is Calc II (integrals) but if you know Calc III (multivariable) you'll get a far better understanding.

quantum13 said:
Or, would you recommend focusing on calc II / III so I can get a better understanding of E&M with a more math heavy book?

are you trying to self study E&M before doing calc II/III? In that case it's okay imo. You can selfstudy the non-calc based E&M and take calc-based course later on.

i would not recommended taking non-calc based E&M course. Get Calc II done, and then do calc based E&M while doing Calc III and you'll get a better understanding. If you want to be done with Calc III first that's okay too but then you'll be waiting +1 semester.
 
Yes, I am trying to self-study it.

Since the replies favor studying non-calc E&M, can anyone compare the textbooks? I've been recommended Serway, Halliday, and Purcell. I actually have an old copy of Halliday but if it's too advanced / other books are better I'm willing to buy them.
 

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