Lens and Focal Length Practice Problems

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Homework Help Overview

The discussion revolves around a lens problem involving a spider and a wall, where participants are tasked with determining the focal length and position of a lens to create a half-size image of the spider. The problem is situated within the context of optics and lens behavior.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the interpretation of the given distance from the spider to the wall, questioning whether it represents the image distance. There is an exploration of the relationships between object distance (p), image distance (q), and focal length (f), with some participants attempting to derive additional equations based on the problem's parameters.

Discussion Status

Some guidance has been offered regarding the setup of the problem, including suggestions to draw a diagram to clarify the relationships between distances. Participants are actively engaging with the problem, but there is no explicit consensus on the next steps or solutions, as some express confusion about the relevance of certain equations and relationships.

Contextual Notes

Participants note the lack of certain information in the problem statement, which may be contributing to their uncertainty. There is also mention of a time constraint, as one participant is facing a deadline for submitting their exam.

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Homework Statement



A 2.0-cm-diameter spider is 1.80 m from a wall.

A. Determine the focal length of a lens that will make a half-size image of the spider on the wall.

B. Determine the position (measured from the wall) of a lens that will make a half-size image of the spider on the wall.



Homework Equations


(1/p) + (1/q) = (1/f)

m = (-q/p)




The Attempt at a Solution


I couldn't figure out where to start. I understand that the magnification should be (-.05) but then I can't use that equation because I don't know the original focal length. Would 1.80 m be the image distance? I wish the problem would have provided more information!
 
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1.80m is not the image distance, it's the distance from the spider to the wall.

And the lens will be somewhere in between the spider and wall.

You can use that information to come up with another equation involving p and q.

p.s. welcome to PF.
 
Redbelly98 said:
1.80m is not the image distance, it's the distance from the spider to the wall.

And the lens will be somewhere in between the spider and wall.

You can use that information to come up with another equation involving p and q.

p.s. welcome to PF.

lol Thanks for welcoming me. The things you stated were the immediate obvious things in my head but I suppose my question should have been, "What is that equation?" The problem says that the distance given is from the spider to the wall. Where to from there?
 
Draw a figure showing the spider, lens, and wall.

Label the distances corresponding to p and q. And indicate the 1.80 m distance also.

The relation should become apparent.
 
Redbelly98 said:
Draw a figure showing the spider, lens, and wall.

Label the distances corresponding to p and q. And indicate the 1.80 m distance also.

The relation should become apparent.

The lens needs to be 0.9 m from the wall? My logic here is 0.5 of the total distance and the magnification is -0.5. If I am correct for this position to produce a half-size image of the spider, what will the focal point have to be for the lens? 0.9 m as well?
 
Suavez said:
The lens needs to be 0.9 m from the wall?

No. That would put the lens halfway between the spider and the wall, which means p=q and m=-1.

p+q=____?
 
Redbelly98 said:
No. That would put the lens halfway between the spider and the wall, which means p=q and m=-1.

p+q=____?


Damn, I'm lost. What is the relevence of p+q? My next choice would have been to position the lens 1.35 m away from the from the spider (3/4 of the total distance).
 
Did you draw the figure as I suggested in post #4?
 
That was the first thing I did for the problem.
 
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I have another problem I'm having some issues with titled "Undefined Angle of Incidence." Any suggestions for that one? I have to submit this take-home exam in 30 minutes and these are the last two problems giving me trouble. I understand things a lot more clearly when I see the broken-down solution and then try another on my own. I'm really lost for these two.
 

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