Lim (sinx-cosx)/(pi-4x) where x->pi/4

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The limit of (sinx - cosx) / (pi - 4x) as x approaches pi/4 can be solved without L'Hospital's rule by rewriting the numerator in the form Rsin(x - A), where R = sqrt(2) and A = pi/4. A suggested method involves multiplying by (cosx + sinx) to simplify the expression and using trigonometric identities. Another approach is to apply a Taylor series expansion around x = pi/4, which helps eliminate even power terms in the numerator. The discussions highlight effective strategies for finding the limit without resorting to L'Hospital's rule.
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lim (sinx-cosx)/(pi-4x) where x-->pi/4

Hi! Could someone help me to solve this problem without using L'Hospital rule? Any hint would be splendid...

lim (sinx-cosx)/(pi-4x)
x-->pi/4

Thanks in advance!
 
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L'Hopital's rule?
 


Sorry, but without L'Hospital. I forgot to mention...With L'Hospital is easy to solve and it gives
=-sqrt(2)/4
 


danculax said:
Sorry, but without L'Hospital. I forgot to mention...With L'Hospital is easy to solve and it gives
=-sqrt(2)/4

Try rewriting sin(x)-cos(x) in the form Rsin(x-A)
 


You could multiply by (cosx + sinx)/(cosx + sinx) and use the identity cos2x -sin2x = cos2x. Then let u = 2x, use the identity sin(\pi/2 - x) = cosx, rewrite it some more, and use the common trig limit sinx/x. Don't forget to change the limits with each substitution.
 


Bohrok said:
You could multiply by (cosx + sinx)/(cosx + sinx) and use the identity cos2x -sin2x = cos2x. Then let u = 2x, use the identity sin(\pi/2 - x) = cosx, rewrite it some more, and use the common trig limit sinx/x. Don't forget to change the limits with each substitution.

Wow! Thank you for this great tip! I tried a similar method but I had problems to find a good substitution. u=2x really works and the problem is solved! Thanks again!
 


rock.freak667 said:
Try rewriting sin(x)-cos(x) in the form Rsin(x-A)

Now I have two solutions for my limit problem. I figured out how to transform sin(x)-cos(x) into Rsin(x-A) form:

R=Sqrt(2)
A=pi/4

sinx-cosx=Sqrt(2)*sin(x-pi/4)

Thank you for your help!
 


L'Hopital's rule is simple. It says that if the limit of a quotient takes on an indeterminate form, such as 0/0 then the limit is equivalent to the derivative of the numerator divided by the derivative of the denominator.

sinx-cosx / pi -4x

set the same limit to

cosx+sinx / -4
 


Alternatively, you could expand \sin(x) and \sin(x) in a Taylor's Series about x = \pi/4. The numerator subtraction will eliminate even power terms and the denomiator will cancel one power of (x-\pi/4) term. The result will have a leading constant term which is your limit as x\rightarrow \pi/4.
 
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Hmm, I'm not familiar with expanding in a Taylor's Series.
 

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