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The discussion revolves around finding the limit of the expression (1 + 3n-1)/3n as n approaches infinity. The subject area is calculus, specifically focusing on limits and their evaluation.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants explore breaking the expression into two fractions and evaluating each limit separately. There are attempts to simplify the expression and questions about the behavior of terms as n approaches infinity.

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Participants are actively engaging with the problem, questioning assumptions about the limits of individual terms and discussing the implications of their evaluations. Some guidance has been offered regarding the simplification of the expression, but there is no explicit consensus on the final outcome.

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There is a focus on understanding the behavior of terms as n becomes very large, with some participants expressing uncertainty about the limits and the need for clarification on specific calculations.

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Homework Statement



What is the limit of the given equations as n approaches infinity?

(1 + 3n-1)/3n
 
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KTiaam said:

Homework Statement



What is the limit of the given equations as n approaches infinity?

(1 + 3n-1)/3n

You are supposed to show an attempt to solve it. Try it. Break it into two fractions.
 
Dick said:
You are supposed to show an attempt to solve it. Try it. Break it into two fractions.

lim 1/3n + lim 3n-1/3n
n→∞ n→∞

the second equation:

you can cancel the 3n-1
and the second equations turns out to be the same as the first so that equals:

lim 1/3n
n→∞


so in approaches e?
 
KTiaam said:
lim 1/3n + lim 3n-1/3n
n→∞ n→∞

the second equation:

you can cancel the 3n-1
and the second equations turns out to be the same as the first so that equals:

lim 1/3n
n→∞


so in approaches e?

e? No, what does 1/3^n approach? Just think about it. And 3^(n-1)/3^n isn't the same as the first term. What is it?
 
Dick said:
e? No, what does 1/3^n approach? Just think about it. And 3^(n-1)/3^n isn't the same as the first term. What is it?

1/3n approaches 1/ a really big number.
1 over a big number equals 0.




(3n-1)/(3n)

thinking about this equation and plugging in values like 2, 3, 4, 5, ect.

you get

31/32

32/33

33/34

they all equal 1/3

so 1/3?
 
KTiaam said:
1/3n approaches 1/ a really big number.
1 over a big number equals 0.




(3n-1)/(3n)

thinking about this equation and plugging in values like 2, 3, 4, 5, ect.

you get

31/32

32/33

33/34

they all equal 1/3

so 1/3?

Yes. But you didn't need to plug numbers in. 3^n=3^(n-1)*3. So 3^(n-1)/3^n=1/3.
 
Dick said:
Yes. But you didn't need to plug numbers in. 3^n=3^(n-1)*3. So 3^(n-1)/3^n=1/3.

so it the answer is zero?

1/3 x 0
 
Where did you get that "0" you are multiplying?
 
HallsofIvy said:
Where did you get that "0" you are multiplying?

the limit as x approaches infinity of 1/3n
 
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KTiaam said:
so it the answer is zero?

1/3 x 0

It's 0+1/3, isn't it?
 

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