Limit Calculation for Radical Functions

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The discussion revolves around the calculation of limits for radical functions, specifically focusing on the function f(x) = (x^2 + 3)/sqrt(2x^4 + 5) as x approaches infinity. Participants explore various methods for evaluating this limit, including squaring the numerator and denominator, and the implications of such operations.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant suggests that squaring the numerator and placing it under a square root is a valid approach for this limit calculation.
  • Another participant agrees that this method is acceptable for this specific limit.
  • However, a different participant warns that squaring a function to find a limit is generally incorrect, raising concerns about the validity of this approach in broader contexts.
  • There is a discussion about whether squaring is permissible if the function is always non-negative, with a follow-up question regarding limits approaching negative infinity.
  • One participant points out that while squaring may yield a limit, it necessitates checking the sign of the function for large x values.
  • Another participant proposes an alternative method involving factoring the expression inside the radical, suggesting that this approach may be more consistent across different limits.
  • A participant expresses curiosity about the reliability of the squaring method and acknowledges its limitations, especially with limits approaching negative infinity.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the validity of squaring functions to find limits. While some agree that it can work for specific cases, others caution against its general applicability, leading to an unresolved debate on the method's consistency.

Contextual Notes

There are limitations regarding the assumptions made about the function's behavior, particularly concerning its sign and the conditions under which squaring may be valid. The discussion does not resolve these uncertainties.

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When calculating the limit of the function f(x) = (x^2 + 3)/ sqrt(2x^4 + 5) as x→∞, is it correct to square the top and then place the resulting polynomial under a square root (i.e. sqrt(x^2 + 3)^2)? Then you can rewrite the problem as the square root of the limit as x→∞ of the resulting function.
So, you'll have:
sqrt(lim x→∞ (x^2 + 3)/ (2x^4 + 5))
Divide above and below by x^4 and solve. Thanks.
 
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Hi DAPOS! :smile:

(try using the X2 button just above the Reply box :wink:)
DAPOS said:
… is it correct to square the top and then place the resulting polynomial under a square root (i.e. sqrt(x^2 + 3)^2)?

So, you'll have:
sqrt(lim x→∞ (x^2 + 3)/ (2x^4 + 5))
Divide above and below by x^4 and solve. Thanks.

(you meant (x2 + 3)2/ (2x4 + 5) :wink:)

Yes, that's fine. :smile:
 
Thanks!
 
While for that particular limit it is correct, squaring a function to find a limit of it is generally wrong.
 
What would be the correct way to approach taking the limit of a radical? One that holds up for the majority of limits.
 
dextercioby said:
While for that particular limit it is correct, squaring a function to find a limit of it is generally wrong.

but it works if the function is always non-negative?
 
It works if it isn't approaching negative infinity, right?
 
What's going on is ##\lim_{x\to\infty} f(x)^2 = L^2 \implies \lim_{x\to\infty}f(x) = \pm L##, so you need to go back and check what the sign of f(x) is for sufficiently large x.
 
DAPOS said:
When calculating the limit of the function f(x) = (x^2 + 3)/ sqrt(2x^4 + 5) as x→∞, is it correct to square the top and then place the resulting polynomial under a square root (i.e. sqrt(x^2 + 3)^2)? Then you can rewrite the problem as the square root of the limit as x→∞ of the resulting function.
So, you'll have:
sqrt(lim x→∞ (x^2 + 3)/ (2x^4 + 5))
Divide above and below by x^4 and solve. Thanks.
Rather than square the numerator and denominator, the way to go would be to factor the expression inside the radical.

$$ \frac{x^2 + 3}{\sqrt{2x^4 + 5}} = \frac{x^2(1 + 3/x^2)}{x^2\sqrt{2 + 5/x^4}}$$
$$ = \frac{1 + 3/x^2}{\sqrt{2 + 5/x^4}}$$

Now take the limit as x → ∞.
 
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I had been taught that method but I was just curious whether the above would actually work consistently. I can see that it won't, especially with limits to - infinity. Thanks for all the help!
 

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