Limit of (1/n)^(1/ln(n)) as n-> infinity

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The discussion revolves around finding the limit of the expression (1/n)^(1/ln(n)) as n approaches infinity, focusing on the application of logarithmic rules and limit evaluation techniques.

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  • Participants explore taking the natural logarithm of the expression to simplify the limit evaluation, discussing the implications of using L'Hôpital's rule and the behavior of logarithmic functions at infinity.

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Some participants express gratitude for insights shared, indicating that helpful guidance has been provided regarding logarithmic properties. There is an ongoing exploration of the rules of logarithms and their applications in limit problems.

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Participants note the challenge of dealing with indeterminate forms and the need for a deeper understanding of logarithmic identities in the context of limits.

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Homework Statement



Finding the limit of (1/n)^(1/ln(n))

as n-> infinity

Homework Equations



Log rules

The Attempt at a Solution



so I take the ln of both sides and get

(1/ln(n))*ln(1/n) in an attempt to get it into the proper condition for l'hospital's rule.

1/ln(infinity) is zero but ln(1/n) is undefined and I have the same problem when trying to multiply by ((1/n)/(1/n)) because it is still an indeterminate form and I can not apply l'hospital's rule.
 
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Eats Dirt said:

Homework Statement



Finding the limit of (1/n)^(1/ln(n))

as n-> infinity

Homework Equations



Log rules

The Attempt at a Solution



so I take the ln of both sides and get

(1/ln(n))*ln(1/n) in an attempt to get it into the proper condition for l'hospital's rule.

1/ln(infinity) is zero but ln(1/n) is undefined and I have the same problem when trying to multiply by ((1/n)/(1/n)) because it is still an indeterminate form and I can not apply l'hospital's rule.

Let y = (1/n)(1/ln(n))
Then ln y = 1/(ln(n)) * ln (1/n) = 1/(ln(n)) * (-ln(n)) = (-ln(n))/ln(n)

Now take the limit, noting that for all finite n, the right side above equals -1. Note also that you can switch the order of the lim operation and the ln operation under certain conditions.

Does that get you started?
 
thanks!
 
Mark44 said:
Let y = (1/n)(1/ln(n))
Then ln y = 1/(ln(n)) * ln (1/n) = 1/(ln(n)) * (-ln(n)) = (-ln(n))/ln(n)

Now take the limit, noting that for all finite n, the right side above equals -1. Note also that you can switch the order of the lim operation and the ln operation under certain conditions.

Does that get you started?

Hey thanks you this does help a lot but I didn't even know about that rule for ln!
so ln(1/n) = -ln(n) ?!

I wonder how many other rules like this there are that I don't even know about haha.

Thanks so much.
 
Eats Dirt said:
Hey thanks you this does help a lot but I didn't even know about that rule for ln!
so ln(1/n) = -ln(n) ?!
Yes. It's a special case of ln(A/B) = ln(A) - ln(B), with A = 1.
Eats Dirt said:
I wonder how many other rules like this there are that I don't even know about haha.

Thanks so much.
 

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