Limit of a sequence with n as a variable, and to the power of n

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The discussion revolves around finding the limits of a sequence defined by the expression \((\frac{n-1}{n})^n\) as \(n\) approaches infinity. Participants are exploring the nature of this limit and its implications for convergence or divergence.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the limit's form, noting it as \(1^{\infty}\) and consider the application of l'Hôpital's rule. There are attempts to rewrite the expression to facilitate limit evaluation, including using logarithmic transformations.

Discussion Status

Several participants have offered insights into potential methods for evaluating the limit, including the use of l'Hôpital's rule and logarithmic manipulation. There is an ongoing exploration of different approaches without a clear consensus on the best method yet.

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One participant mentions the urgency of their inquiry due to an upcoming exam, indicating a time constraint that may affect the depth of their exploration.

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Homework Statement


Find the limits of the following sequences, if they exist. Justify your answers.

{([tex]\frac{n-1}{n}[/tex] )[tex]^{n}[/tex]}[tex]^{\infty}_{n=1}[/tex] or maybe [tex]\sum^{\infty}_{n=1}(\frac{n-1}{n} )^{n}[/tex] is clearer?

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I know the whole part that it's a sequence doesn't really matter, that I'm just finding the limit as n [tex]\rightarrow[/tex][tex]\infty[/tex] but that's not so easy...


The Attempt at a Solution


I know that the limit of that (sorry I'm too lazy to retype it) equals the [limit (as n approaches infinity) of ((n-1)/n) ] ^n by the "limit laws" if you want to call them that (the whole think to the nth degree including the limit, sorry if this is really confusing, I'm new to the equation insert thing) but I'm kind of stuck. Because if you evaluate just ((n-1)/n) you end up with infinity over infinity, and it's not something to some other variable that the power is being taken, it's to the same variable, "n", which should be going to infinity anyways, so I'm quite stuck! please help? and thanks!
 
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[(n-1)/n]^n=1/[1+1/(n-1)]^n
a well known limit since for large n
1+1/(n-1)~exp[1/(n-1)]
 
The limit has the form 1^infinity. Can't you use l'Hopital's rule on it? If you find the limit exists and is nonzero you don't have to worry about the series, it will diverge.
 
Dick said:
The limit has the form 1^infinity. Can't you use l'Hopital's rule on it? If you find the limit exists and is nonzero you don't have to worry about the series, it will diverge.

I didn't think i could because the whole thing is to the power of n, but i guess i wasn't thinking straight? Anyways, thanks again for the help I was just studying for my calc2 exam tomorrow and came across this one
 
If you take the log, you can turn it into a 0/0 form that you can apply l'Hopital to. Or if you already know that lim (1+x/n)^n=e^x, you can rearrange it into that form.
 

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