Limit of F(X) at X=2: Solving for Rational Functions with Zero Denominators

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The discussion revolves around evaluating limits of functions, particularly focusing on a rational function with a zero denominator and the application of the Squeeze Theorem in limit evaluation.

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  • Participants explore the concept of limits, particularly in the context of functions that are bounded by other functions. Questions arise about the implications of oscillating functions and undefined points in limit evaluation.

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Participants are actively discussing various approaches to evaluating limits, including the Squeeze Theorem and the behavior of oscillating functions. Some guidance has been offered regarding the nature of limits and the conditions under which they exist, though no consensus has been reached on specific methods.

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There is mention of the original poster's uncertainty regarding limits involving zero denominators and oscillating functions, indicating a potential gap in understanding that is being addressed through discussion.

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IF 5X<=f(X)<=X^3+2
FIND LIM F(X)IS X=2
 
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I'm sorry, what are you asking? Is it this:

If [itex]5x\le f(x)\le x^3+2[/itex] then find [itex]\lim_{x\rightarrow2}f(x)[/itex] ?
 


yes that is correct
 


step1536 said:
yes that is correct

What do you know about the limit of a function that is being "Sandwiched" or "Squeezed" between two other functions? hint...hint...:wink:
 


so I have 10<=2<=10 and the equations equals 10
 


Yes. :smile:
 


I think I understand limits but this last question says that lim x=0
evaluate limx^6 cos 7/x
I came up with 0 or would it be limit does not exist.
 


[tex]\lim_{x\rightarrow0}x^6\cos(\frac{7}{x})[/tex] ?
 


yes that is correct
 
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Hmmm... I am not sure. Perhaps someone else can chime in here. I don't remember all of the 'tricks' to evaluating limits.

If you can find a way to rewrite the function such that the 'x' in the denominator can be cancelled, then the limit exists.

I would play around with the trig identities maybe?
 
  • #11


The limit should be 0, since x gets arbitrarily small. Although there is oscillation from the cos, the function is bounded. You should try proving this rigorously.
 
  • #12


Saladsamurai said:
Hmmm... I am not sure. Perhaps someone else can chime in here. I don't remember all of the 'tricks' to evaluating limits.

If you can find a way to rewrite the function such that the 'x' in the denominator can be cancelled, then the limit exists.

I would play around with the trig identities maybe?

No.. you don't need any trig identity here. When dealing with limits of this kind, i.e involving the product of one part tending to 0, and the other part oscillating. Then, one should think right about the range of the oscillating part, and how "big" can it get.

Hint hint.. :wink:

Saladsamurai said:
What do you know about the limit of a function that is being "Sandwiched" or "Squeezed" between two other functions? hint...hint...:wink:
 
  • #13


VietDao29 said:
No.. you don't need any trig identity here. When dealing with limits of this kind, i.e involving the product of one part tending to 0, and the other part oscillating. Then, one should think right about the range of the oscillating part, and how "big" can it get.

Hint hint.. :wink:

Is one of the 'factors' oscillating though? It looks undefined. But, like I said, it's been awhile :smile:

[tex] \lim_{x\rightarrow0}x^6\cos(\frac{7}{x})[/tex]
 
  • #14


Saladsamurai said:
Is one of the 'factors' oscillating though? It looks undefined. But, like I said, it's been awhile :smile:

[tex] \lim_{x\rightarrow0}x^6\cos(\frac{7}{x})[/tex]

The function is undefined at x = 0. However the limit does exist when x tends to 0.

Another example is:

[tex]\frac{x ^ 2}{x}[/tex] is undefined at x = 0. But:

[tex]\lim_{x \rightarrow 0} \frac{x ^ 2}{x} = \lim_{x \rightarrow 0} x = 0[/tex].

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Or:

[tex]\frac{\sin(x)}{x}[/tex] is undefined at x = 0. But:

[tex]\lim_{x \rightarrow 0} \frac{\sin(x)}{x} = 1[/tex].

Because, when taking limit as x tends to 0. We just consider the values for x near 0 (0 excluded). So, when the function is undefined at x = 0, the limit may still exist. :)

Well, if you are still unsure about how to do it. I'll give you a hint then:

  1. Find the range for cos(x)
  2. Then, try to apply the "Sandwich Theorem" like this:
    [tex]... \leq x ^ 6 \cos\left(\frac{7}{x} \right) \leq ...[/tex]
 
  • #15


Ah. I see, I am actually just reviewing limits fir the first time in years. I have past the section on how to deal with rational functions with zero denominators if the zero in the denominator can be 'eliminated.'

But, have yet to get to the part where they cannot.

Thanks for the preview :smile:
 

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