Limit of Product Cosine | Double-Angle Formulas for Sine | (0,π/2) Range

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Homework Help Overview

The discussion revolves around evaluating the limit of a product of cosine functions as \( N \) approaches infinity, specifically for \( x \) in the range \( (0, \pi/2) \). The original poster attempts to utilize double-angle formulas for sine in their approach.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the formulation of the limit and the proper representation of terms in the denominator. There are attempts to clarify the expression involving sine and cosine products, as well as alternative methods involving exponential forms and collapsing products.

Discussion Status

Participants are actively engaging with each other's contributions, offering corrections and alternative methods. Some guidance has been provided regarding the limit and the structure of the product, but no consensus has been reached on a single approach.

Contextual Notes

There are indications of potential errors in counting terms in the denominator and the representation of sine functions, which are under discussion. The participants are also exploring different mathematical representations without resolving the underlying limit directly.

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Homework Statement



Calculate for [tex]x\in(0,\pi/2)[/tex]

[tex]\lim_{N\rightarrow\infty}\prod_{n=0}^{N}cos(\frac{x}{2^{n}})[/tex]

Hint: Use the Double-Angle Formulas for the sine.

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The Attempt at a Solution



[tex]cos(x)\cdot cos(\frac{x}{2})\cdot cos(\frac{x}{4})\cdot...[/tex]
[tex]\frac{\sin2x}{2\cdot\sin x}\cdot\frac{\sin x}{2\cdot\sin x/2}\cdot\frac{\sin x/2}{2\cdot\sin x/4}\cdot...[/tex]
[tex]\frac{\sin2x}{2}\cdot\frac{1}{2}\cdot\frac{1}{2}\cdot...\cdot\frac{1}{2\cdot\sin x/N}[/tex]
[tex]\frac{\sin2x}{\sin(x/{2^N})\cdot2^{N}}[/tex]
However, now I have to resolve the 0*infinity in the denom. But how do I resolve that.
 
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Shouldn't the N in sin(x/N) be like sin(x/(2^N))?
 
yes, of course. I updated the information.
 
Then your denominator is a simple limit. It looks like limit c-> 0 of sin(c*x)/c, where c=1/(2^N).
 
BTW, make sure you've counted the 2's in the denominator correctly. I'm finding an extra one.
 
that, of course, works. thanks you a lot.
 
An alternative method that I find quite nice is to use the fact that cos(x/2^n) is the real part of exp(ix/2^n). The product of the exponentials becomes an easy geometric series in the exponent =]
 
You can also use a 'collapsing product'.

Note,
[tex]A_4 = \cos \frac{x}{2} \cos \frac{x}{4} \cos \frac{x}{8} \cos \frac{x}{16}[/tex]
Then,
[tex]\sin \frac{x}{16} A_4 = \cos \frac{x}{2} \cos \frac{x}{4} \cos \frac{x}{8} \cos \frac{x}{16} \sin \frac{x}{16}[/tex]
So,
[tex]2A_4\sin \frac{x}{16} = \cos \frac{x}{2} \cos \frac{x}{4} \cos \frac{x}{8}\sin \frac{x}{8}[/tex]
Again,
[tex]4A_4\sin \frac{x}{16} = \cos \frac{x}{2} \cos \frac{x}{4} \sin \frac{x}{4}[/tex]
Again,
[tex]8A_4\sin \frac{x}{16} = \cos \frac{x}{2} \sin \frac{x}{2}[/tex]
Last time,
[tex]16A_4\sin \frac{x}{16} = \sin x[/tex]
That means (since [tex]x\in (0,\pi/2)[/tex])
[tex]A_4 = \frac{\sin x}{2^4 \sin \frac{x}{2^4}}[/tex]
And in general,
[tex]A_n = \frac{\sin x}{2^n \sin \frac{x}{2^n}}[/tex]
 
Gib Z said:
An alternative method that I find quite nice is to use the fact that cos(x/2^n) is the real part of exp(ix/2^n). The product of the exponentials becomes an easy geometric series in the exponent =]

Did you try doing it that way? I take the product of the exponentials and I get exp(i*2*x). Now what? The real part of that doesn't have much to do with the product of the real parts of the terms. That trick doesn't ALWAYS make things easier.
 
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Damn It I assumed that the Real part of a product is equal to the product of the real part :( Never mind me =]
 

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