Limits, find delta given epsilon

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around finding the appropriate delta for a given epsilon in the context of limits, specifically for the function f(x) = 1/x as x approaches 5. Participants are exploring the mathematical reasoning involved in establishing the relationship between delta and epsilon.

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  • Mathematical reasoning
  • Homework-related
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Main Points Raised

  • One participant presents the problem of finding delta given epsilon for the limit of 1/x as x approaches 5, expressing uncertainty in their algebraic manipulation.
  • Another participant points out a mistake in the interpretation of the inequality involving x and delta, suggesting the condition should be |x-5|
  • A subsequent reply questions the direction of the inequalities and proposes a specific value for delta, although they express difficulty in arriving at that conclusion.
  • Another participant suggests that the limit should be interpreted differently, indicating a potential misunderstanding of the original question.
  • One participant defends their interpretation of the question, asserting that they have copied it correctly and suggesting that the limit notation may have been misinterpreted.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on the correct interpretation of the limit or the appropriate value for delta, indicating multiple competing views and unresolved aspects of the problem.

Contextual Notes

There are limitations in the clarity of the original problem statement, as well as potential misunderstandings regarding the direction of inequalities and the interpretation of the limit notation.

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A positive number epsilon (e) and a limit L of a function f at a are given. Find delta such that |f(x)-L|< epsilon if 0 < |x-a| < delta. [tex]\lim_{x->5}, 1/x= 1/5, \epsilon=.05[/tex]. That implies the following [tex]|\frac{1}{x}-\frac{1}{5}|< \epsilon \mbox{ if }|x-5|<\delta[/tex]. Which implies [tex]|\frac{1}{x}-\frac{1}{5}|< .05 \\[/tex]. Which gives [tex].15< \frac{1}{x} < .25[/tex]. Which gives [tex]6\frac{2}{6}> x > 4 \mbox{ therefore } 1\frac{2}{3} < x-5< -1[/tex]. Which does not give the correct delta. I maybe rusty on algebra, as I am studying on my own. Could someone show me how to do it correctly. Thanks for the help.
 
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John O' Meara said:
[tex]6\frac{2}{6}> x > 4 \mbox{ therefore } 1\frac{2}{3} < x-5< -1[/tex].

Here is your mistake. The condition is supposed to be [tex]|x-5|<\delta[/tex].
 
Do you mean that the arrows are the wrong way around [tex]6\frac{2}{3}>x>4 \mbox{ therefore } 1\frac{2}{3}>x-5>-1[/tex].The actual answer to [tex]\delta = \frac{1}{505}[/tex]. But I cannot get it.
 
Are you sure you copied the question correctly? If you use 1/x ->5 as x->1/5 instead of the other way around you get that answer.
 
I checked out the question and I have copied it correctly, they must have meant [tex]\lim_{\frac{1}{x}->5}[/tex]. Thanks.
 

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