LimSup and LimInf Homework: Find (0,1)

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The problem involves finding the limit superior (Lim Sup) and limit inferior (Lim Inf) of a sequence of sets defined by An, which varies based on whether n is even or odd. The sets are (0,1+1/n) for even n and (-1/n, 1) for odd n.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Conceptual clarification

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  • Participants discuss their attempts to apply definitions of Lim Sup and Lim Inf, with one participant expressing confusion about calculating UAn. Another participant suggests a criterion for determining Lim Inf and Lim Sup based on membership in the sets.

Discussion Status

There is active engagement with differing interpretations of the limit superior and limit inferior. Some participants provide reasoning and criteria for their conclusions, while others seek clarification on the methods used. No consensus has been reached regarding the correct values of Lim Sup and Lim Inf.

Contextual Notes

Participants are navigating the complexities of sequences defined by varying conditions and are questioning the accuracy of their calculations and approaches. There is a mention of the need for a correct method when dealing with complex sequences.

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Homework Statement



For [tex]n \in N[/tex], let An be (0,1+1/n) if n is even and (-1/n, 1) if n is odd.
Find Lim Sup An and Lim Inf An

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The Attempt at a Solution



Basically, I got Lim Sup = Lim Inf = (0,1). I'm not sure it's correct as I always get confused when I need to calculate UAn. My usual approach is to draw the first elements of An, but I guess it's not a useful method when dealing with more complex An.
 
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Hmm, using the definitions is annoying, I always use the following criterium

[tex]\liminf{A_n}=\{x~\vert~\exists n_0:~\forall n>n_0:~x\in A_n\}=\{x~\vert~x\in A_n~\text{eventually}\}[/tex]

Using this, we see that the liminf of our sequence is (0,1).

For the limsup:

[tex]\liminf{A_n}=\{x~\vert~\forall n:~\exists m>n:~x\in A_m\}=\{x~\vert~x\in A_n~\text{for infinitely many n}\}[/tex]

Using this, we see that the limsup of the sequence is (0,2).
 
Thanks for the quick reply! Can you provide the details? I'm not fully understand how to solve this kind of problems. The problem is fairly easy, but what is the correct approach/method when dealing with complex sequences?

Also, why [tex]\limsup{A_n}[/tex] is not (0, 1.5)?
 
Oh no, I was incorrect. The limsup is (0,1], not (0,2). 1 is in there because 1 occurs infinitely often in the sequence An (because 1 is in An whenever n is even).

So you are completely correct, except for the point 1. Maybe you should recheck your calculations for this point?
 

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