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The discussion centers on understanding Theorem 3.28, the Lindelöf Covering Theorem, from Tom M. Apostol's "Mathematical Analysis." The main question raised is how a countable collection of open sets can cover an uncountably infinite set, specifically regarding the use of n-balls as x varies over an uncountable set. Participants clarify that while there are uncountably many points in the set A, only countably many n-balls exist, leading to multiple points mapping to the same n-ball. The preference for Apostol's proof over Sohrab's is noted, with Apostol's argument deemed clearer and more accessible. The conversation highlights the challenges of comprehending complex mathematical proofs and the importance of clarity in exposition.
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I am reading Tom M Apostol's book "Mathematical Analysis" (Second Edition) ...

I am focused on Chapter 3: Elements of Point Set Topology ... ...

I need help in order to fully understand Theorem 3.28 (Lindelof Covering Theorem ... ) .Theorem 3.28 (including its proof) reads as follows:View attachment 9082
View attachment 9083In the above proof by Apostol we read the following:

" ... ... The set of all $$n$$-balls $$A_{ m(x) }$$ obtained as $$x$$ varies over all elements of $$A$$ is a countable collection of open sets which covers $$A$$ ... ..."
My question is as follows:

What happens when $$A$$ is an uncountably infinite set ... how does the set of all $$n$$-balls $$A_{ m(x) }$$ remain as a countable collection of open sets which covers $$A$$ ... when $$x$$ ranges over an uncountable set ... ...?My thoughts are as follows: ... ... ... the sets $$A_{ m(x) }$$ must be used many times ... indeed in many cases infinitely many times ... is that correct?

Help will be much appreciated ...

Peter=====================================================================================The above post refers to Theorem 3.27 ... so I am providing text of the same ... as follows:View attachment 9084
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Hope that helps ...

Peter
 

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Peter said:
In the above proof by Apostol we read the following:

" ... ... The set of all $$n$$-balls $$A_{ m(x) }$$ obtained as $$x$$ varies over all elements of $$A$$ is a countable collection of open sets which covers $$A$$ ... ..."

My question is as follows:

What happens when $$A$$ is an uncountably infinite set ... how does the set of all $$n$$-balls $$A_{ m(x) }$$ remain as a countable collection of open sets which covers $$A$$ ... when $$x$$ ranges over an uncountable set ... ...?

My thoughts are as follows: ... ... ... the sets $$A_{ m(x) }$$ must be used many times ... indeed in many cases infinitely many times ... is that correct?
That is correct. There are uncountably many points in $A$, but there are only countably many elements $A_k$ in $G$. So (in general) there will be uncountably many different points $x\in A$ giving rise to the same element $A_k = A_{m(x)}\in G$.

I very much prefer Apostol's proof of the Lindelöf covering theorem to that of Sohrab which you quoted in https://mathhelpboards.com/analysis-50/compact-subsets-r-sohrab-proposition-4-1-1-lindelof-26249.html#post115993. I found Sohrab's proof almost impenetrable, but Apostol presents essentially the same argument in a much more transparent way.
 
Opalg said:
That is correct. There are uncountably many points in $A$, but there are only countably many elements $A_k$ in $G$. So (in general) there will be uncountably many different points $x\in A$ giving rise to the same element $A_k = A_{m(x)}\in G$.

I very much prefer Apostol's proof of the Lindelöf covering theorem to that of Sohrab which you quoted in https://mathhelpboards.com/analysis-50/compact-subsets-r-sohrab-proposition-4-1-1-lindelof-26249.html#post115993. I found Sohrab's proof almost impenetrable, but Apostol presents essentially the same argument in a much more transparent way.
Thanks for the help Opalg ...

The fact that you found Sohrab's proof almost impenetrable was such a relief to me ... since I found it. Incredibly difficult/impossible ... but I did follow Apostol ...

Thanks again ...

Peter
 

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