Linear Differential Equations in Kinematics

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The discussion centers on solving nonlinear differential equations related to kinematics, specifically focusing on the equations involving air resistance. Participants express difficulty in integrating the equation involving air resistance and gravitational forces, particularly the integral of the form ∫(1/(-g - αv²))dv. Various integration techniques are suggested, including arctan and arctanh, with some debate over their applicability and correctness. The conversation highlights the importance of considering the signs of forces acting on a projectile during its motion, especially when analyzing upward and downward trajectories. Ultimately, the need for clarity in handling both cases of motion is emphasized, along with the suggestion to explore hyperbolic functions for solutions.
  • #31
P3X-018 said:
Havn't the gravity and aerodynamic forces same signs, when the projectil is on it's way to the top, and on the way down, they have opposite signs?

That's something totally different.I was considering free fall.Yes,the aerodynamics force changes the sign...

Daniel.
 
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  • #32
P3X-018 said:
Havn't the gravity and aerodynamic forces same signs, when the projectil is on it's way to the top, and on the way down, they have opposite signs?
Precisely!
However, you didn't really make it clear from the start that you were considering BOTH cases; I well understand Daniel's objection (he has worked under the most natural assumption given your info).
 
  • #33
Yea I know it was my fault. I didn't consider the 2 cases, but in the second equation then you got to use arctanh.
 
  • #34
P3X-018 said:
I didn't consider the 2 cases, but in the second equation then you got to use arctanh.

Since partial fraction decomposition disgusts me, go for artanh.
(I guess Daniel has a different view on this..:wink:)
 
  • #35
Take both methods... :-p You'll get the expression for "arctanh" in terms of "ln"...A useful result...A nice proof to it,also...

Daniel.

P.S.Arildno,i LOVE HYPERBOLIC FUNCTIONS... :!) :-p
 
  • #36
Well, but I don't have so much experience in seprating fractions :'(. How do you seprate the fraction
\frac{1}{1\pm u}
 
  • #37
P3X-018 said:
Well, but I don't have so much experience in seprating fractions :'(. How do you seprate the fraction
\frac{1}{1\pm u}
Those can't be decomposed further, but:
\frac{1}{1-u^{2}}=\frac{1}{2}(\frac{1}{1+u}+\frac{1}{1-u})
\frac{1}{1+u^{2}} cannot be partially fractiondecomposed in real partial fractions.
 

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