Linear Fractional Transformation - find the formula

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The discussion revolves around finding a formula for a linear fractional transformation that maps specific points from one projective line to another. The original poster presents a set of equations based on given mappings of points and seeks to determine the coefficients of the transformation.

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  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

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  • Participants discuss setting up a system of equations based on the mappings provided. There is an exploration of the implications of choosing specific values for coefficients, such as setting c = 1, and the resulting effects on the equations. Some participants express concerns about the validity of these assumptions and question the outcomes derived from them.

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The discussion is ongoing, with participants exploring different approaches to solve for the coefficients. Some guidance has been offered regarding the simplification of the equations, but there is no explicit consensus on the correct method or values. Multiple interpretations of the assumptions and their consequences are being examined.

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Participants note the complexity of the relationships between the coefficients and the potential for errors in assumptions made during simplification. There is a recognition that the choice of certain coefficients may lead to contradictions or nonsensical results, which has prompted further questioning and exploration of the problem setup.

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http://math.sfsu.edu/federico/Clase/Math350.S15/linea.JPG 1. Homework Statement
The picture below represents the map from a "green projective line" to a "red projective line." It takes the "green points" 1,3,7,-11 to the "red points" 0,6,10,20, respectively as shown by the ruler. Let f be the corresponding linear fractional, so f(1) = 0, f(3) = 6, f(7) = 10, f(-11) = 20. Find a formula for the "red point" f(x) on the ruler where the "green point" x lands.

Homework Equations


a linear fractional is where f(x) = (ax+b)/(cx+d) where ad-bc is not equal to 0.

The Attempt at a Solution


First a did a system of equations:
(a(1) + b) / ( c(1) + d ) = 0
(a(3) +b) / ( c(3) + d )= 6
(a(7) +b) / ( c(7) + d ) = 10
(a(-11) +b) / (c(-11) + d )= 20

Thinking I could solve for a,b,c,d. However if I get all the letters in terms of let's say d and solve, this becomes nonsensical, since something d over something d is a number (the d's reduce) , and I'm left with a number = another number.
 
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anniecvc said:
a linear fractional is where f(x) = (ax+b)/(cx+d) where ad-bc is not equal to 0.
Since you have a fraction, you can choose either a or c to be 1. So, choose c = 1. The first equation says a⋅1 + b = 0, so b = -a. That's two variables accounted for. Now the rest is easy...
 
Choosing a or c to be 1 (or any number) seems to be an invalid assumption since even this is a ratio of a sum not just of a number over a number (choosing c=1 affects d, and choosing a=1 affects b), but please explain if I am incorrect. I chose c to be 1, then since I had everything else worked out in terms of d I plugged it all in. When I did, c=1 did not give f(3) = 6, so I solved for what c would be and got c = 1/6. Then, I tried to test this formula with f(7) = 10. It didn't work.
 
anniecvc said:
Choosing a or c to be 1 (or any number) seems to be an invalid assumption since even this is a ratio of a sum not just of a number over a number (choosing c=1 affects d, and choosing a=1 affects b), but please explain if I am incorrect. I chose c to be 1, then since I had everything else worked out in terms of d I plugged it all in. When I did, c=1 did not give f(3) = 6, so I solved for what c would be and got c = 1/6. Then, I tried to test this formula with f(7) = 10. It didn't work.
I am sorry, but you have made an error somewhere. One solution is: a = 15, b= -15, c=1, d=2.

About choosing one of the variables: A fundamental fact of fractions is that you can multiply or divide by the same number above or below. Therefore \frac{a\cdot x + b}{c\cdot x + d}=\frac{a(x+\frac{b}{a})}{a(\frac{c\cdot x}{a}+\frac{d}{a})}=\frac{c(\frac{a}{c}x+\frac{b}{c})}{c(x+\frac{d}{c})} (of course, you cannot do that if the one you choose turns out to be 0).
 
Thanks very much Svein.
 
Another quick simplification is to notice the case where f(x)=0

\frac{a+b}{c+d}=0
and for a fraction to equal 0, it means that the numerator = 0, hence

a+b=0

a=-b\text{, or } b=-a

Therefore you just have an equation of the form

f(x)=\frac{ax-a}{cx+d}
 

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