Linear transformation T: R3 -> R2

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The discussion revolves around finding a linear transformation T from R3 to R2, defined by specific mappings of certain vectors. The original poster expresses uncertainty about how to approach the problem, particularly in the context of linear transformations and matrix representation.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

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  • Participants discuss the implications of the given mappings and question how to derive additional values needed for the transformation matrix. There is exploration of whether knowing the values of T for the standard basis vectors would simplify the problem.

Discussion Status

Participants are actively engaging with the problem, sharing thoughts on how to interpret the mappings and the structure of the transformation matrix. Some suggest using linearity to derive unknown values, while others seek clarification on the task at hand.

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There is a focus on the need for additional information about the transformation, specifically the values of T for the standard basis vectors, which are not provided. Participants are also navigating the challenge of arranging the transformation into a matrix format.

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Linear transformation T: R3 --> R2

Homework Statement



Find the linear transformation T: R3 --> R2 such that:
T(1,0,0) = (2,1)
T(0,1,1) = (3,2)
T(1,1,0) = (1,4)



The Attempt at a Solution



I've been doing some exercises about linear transformations (rotations and reflections mostly) but I've never seen something like this... I don't know how to even start :S I did some research and only found examples on proving the two conditions for a transformation to be linear...

Any help please?
 
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Could you answer the problem if they gave you the values of T(1,0,0), T(0,1,0) and T(0,0,1)? If you can than can you figure out what they are from the given information?
 
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Thanks for the reply.

Humm.. what do you mean? If they changed the values of the T's I posted?
 


aero_zeppelin said:
Thanks for the reply.

Humm.. what do you mean? If they changed the values of the T's I posted?

Yes, T is a 2x3 matrix. T(1,0,0) is the first column of the matrix, right?
 


Dick said:
Yes, T is a 2x3 matrix. T(1,0,0) is the first column of the matrix, right?

Yeah, I would say so... Like I said, I have never done an exercise like this before, so I don't exactly now how to start arranging things hehe
 


aero_zeppelin said:
Yeah, I would say so... Like I said, I have never done an exercise like this before, so I don't exactly now how to start arranging things hehe

Well, it's time to start arranging things now. You know T(1,0,0). They gave it to you. So you know the first column of the matrix. Now what's T(0,1,0)? That would be the second column. Can you figure that out using linearity from the given information?
 


Dick said:
Well, it's time to start arranging things now. You know T(1,0,0). They gave it to you. So you know the first column of the matrix. Now what's T(0,1,0)? That would be the second column. Can you figure that out using linearity from the given information?


hehe ok! Are you mistaking that second T? It should be T(0,1,1), right? Anyway, what exactly are we trying to do? Arrange T's inside a matrix as columns and then...?
 


Another way to do this: Write <x, y, z> as a combination of <1, 0, 0>, <0, 1, 1>, and <1, 1, 0>. That is, <x, y, z>= a<1, 0, 0>+ b<0, 1, 1>+ c<1, 1, 0>= <a+ c, b+ c, b>. So we have a+ c= x, b+ c= y, and b= z. Then c= y- z and a= x- y+ z.

That is, <x, y, z>= (x-y+ z)<1, 0, 0>+ z<0, 1, 1>+ (y- z)<1, 1, 0>.

So T<x, y, z>= (x- y+ z)T<1, 0, 0>+ zT<0, 1, 1>+ (y- z)T<1, 1, 0>.
 


aero_zeppelin said:
hehe ok! Are you mistaking that second T? It should be T(0,1,1), right? Anyway, what exactly are we trying to do? Arrange T's inside a matrix as columns and then...?

What is T(1,1,0)-T(1,0,0)? In the example they gave it is easy to find the value of T on the three basis vectors (1,0,0), (0,1,0) and (0,0,1). That will let you write down a matrix for T. I was guessing that was what they meant by 'find the linear transformation'.
 

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