Linearly Independent R^3 -> Linearly Independent R^4

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The discussion revolves around a linear transformation T from R^3 to R^4, specifically examining the conditions under which the images of linearly independent vectors in R^3 remain linearly independent in R^4. Participants are tasked with providing examples of such transformations and analyzing the properties of their standard matrices.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the injective nature of the transformation and the implications for the standard matrix, including the necessity for pivots in each column. There is an exploration of potential forms of the reduced row echelon form of the matrix. Some participants question the clarity of the definitions and the conditions for linear independence.

Discussion Status

Some participants have provided examples of transformations and discussed the characteristics of the matrices involved. There is ongoing exploration of the properties of the standard matrix and its row-reduced form, with no explicit consensus reached on the interpretations or examples presented.

Contextual Notes

Participants note that the course level is introductory, which may influence the complexity of the discussion. There is also mention of confusion regarding the requirements for linear independence in the context of the transformation.

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Standard Matrix for R^3 -> R^4 where if domain is Linearly Independent so is codomain

Homework Statement



5. Suppose T : R^3 -> R^4 is a linear transformation with the following property:
For any linearly independent vectors v_1, v_2 and v_3 in R^3, the images T(v_1),
T(v_2) and T(v_3) are linearly independent in R4.
(a) Give an example of such a linear transformation. Give its standard matrix and the
reduced row echelon form of this matrix.
(b) Work out all possible shapes of the reduced row echelon form for such a matrix.
Use the symbols 0, 1, and * where * indicates an entry which may take on the value
of any real number.

Homework Equations



No relevant equations. The linear transformation must be given as a standard matrix with dimensions 3 * 4 since that would lead to a vector in R^4.

The Attempt at a Solution



So far I know that since the vectors are linearly independent, the reduced form of both vectors must have pivots in each column. I reasoned that the function must be injective because each vector in R^3 can only correspond to 1 vector in R^4 but there are more vectors in R^4 than R^3.

This question seems confusing and I can't put my thoughts together. This is not a very advanced class (it is just a standard freshman linear algebra course for scientists and scientists).
 
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If v = (a, b, c), try T(v) = (a, b, c, 0).
 
Thank you for your response. After more thinking I was able to find that the matrix must be linearly independent (pivot in every column) and that when it is row reduced, the matrix would be:

[ 1 0 0 ]
[ 0 1 0 ]
[ 0 0 1 ]
[ 0 0 0 ]
 
svasudevan said:
Thank you for your response. After more thinking I was able to find that the matrix must be linearly independent (pivot in every column) and that when it is row reduced, the matrix would be:

[ 1 0 0 ]
[ 0 1 0 ]
[ 0 0 1 ]
[ 0 0 0 ]
Don't you means that the columns in the matrix must be linearly independent?
 

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