Little issue in Relativistic Quantum Physics

In summary, the mathematician wanted to prove that the two psi vectors are the same, and found that if he takes the absolute value of the difference between the two psi vectors, the result is the same as the psi vector that he started with.
  • #1
StephvsEinst
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Hey!
I wanted to prove that:

$$ P_L \bar{ \psi } = \bar{ \psi } P_R $$

And I want to know if I did it correctly.
$$ --- $$
Here is what I did:
$$ P_L \bar{ \psi } = \frac{ ( 1 - \gamma_5 ) }{2} \psi^{ \dagger } \gamma_0, $$
$$ = \frac{ 1 }{2} \psi^{ \dagger } \gamma_0 - \frac{ 1 }{2} \gamma_5 \psi^{ \dagger } \gamma_0 $$
$$ = \frac{ 1 }{2} \psi^{ \dagger } \gamma_0 - \frac{ 1 }{2} \psi^{ \dagger } \gamma_5 \gamma_0 $$
$$ = \frac{ 1 }{2} \psi^{ \dagger } \gamma_0 + \frac{ 1 }{2} \psi^{ \dagger } \gamma_0 \gamma_5 $$
$$ = \psi^{ \dagger } \gamma_0 \frac{ ( 1 + \gamma_5 ) }{2} $$
$$ = \bar { \psi } P_R. $$
$$ --- $$
Where
$$ \psi =
\left(
\begin{smallmatrix}
\psi_1 \\
\psi_2 \\
\psi_3 \\
\psi_4
\end{smallmatrix}
\right) $$

And
$$ P_L = \frac{ ( 1 - \gamma_5 ) }{2} \qquad P_R = \frac{ ( 1 + \gamma_5 ) }{2} $$

And
$$ \bar{ \psi } = \psi^{ \dagger } \gamma_0 $$

And
$$ \gamma_0 \gamma_5 + \gamma_5 \gamma_0 = 0 $$

$$ \mbox{ Note: } \gamma_0 \mbox{ and } \gamma_5 \mbox{ are Dirac's matrices. }$$

$$ --- $$

Is there anything wrong with this?
 
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  • #2
It is very wrong. ##\bar\psi## is a row vector; it must be to the left of all matrices. So ##P_L\bar\psi## is not a legal expression.
 
  • #3
Hint: Calculate
$$\overline{P_L \psi}=(P_L \psi)^{\dagger} \gamma^0,$$
using the usual "Diracology" of ##\gamma## matrices. I guess it's a homework problem and should be moved to the homework section. That's why I only give this hint and not a full solution!
 
  • #4
Thank you for the reply!
It isn't homework, just need to calculate that because I want to understand the following:
$$ J_L^{ \mu + } = \bar{ \psi_L } \gamma^{ \mu } \psi_L \equiv V - A $$
Thanks for the hint, I'll try to solve it that way!
 
  • #5
Is this the correct way?

$$ \overline{P_L \psi } = \left[ \frac{ ( 1 - \gamma_5 ) }{2} \psi \right]^{ \dagger } \gamma_0, $$

We have

$$ ( \gamma_5 )^{ \dagger } = \gamma_5 $$

So:

$$ = \frac{ 1 }{2} \psi^{ \dagger } \gamma_0 - \frac{ 1 }{2} \psi^{ \dagger } \gamma_5 \gamma_0 \\
= \frac{ 1 }{2} \psi^{ \dagger } \gamma_0 + \frac{ 1 }{2} \psi^{ \dagger } \gamma_0 \gamma_5 \\
= \psi^{ \dagger } \gamma_0 \frac{ ( 1 + \gamma_5 ) }{2} \\
= \bar { \psi } P_R. $$
 
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  • #6
Yes, that's correct!
 
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Avodyne said:
Yes, that's correct!

Thank you! :)
 

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