Local bending stress calculation in long beams

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The discussion focuses on calculating local bending stress in long UPN profiles due to concentrated forces. The conventional bending stress formula for finite elements is deemed inapplicable for long beams, necessitating alternative approaches. An empirical formula from elevator standards, \(\sigma=\frac{1.85F}{c^2}\), is referenced for calculating stress at the flange root. Participants suggest methods such as treating the loaded area as built-in at a distance or employing plastic analysis to derive stress distributions.

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Hi everyone,

Recently I faced a problem in calculating bending stress in a long UPN profile "flange" due to concentrated force.
It seems that the regular/familiar formula for bending stress in a finite/short element does not applicable in local bending of long/infinite beam. See sketch attached for clarification.
An example to such calculation I found in elevator's std for "T" rails calculation which express the stress in the "flange" root:

\sigma=\frac{1.85F}{c^2}

My question is how to calculate such local bending stress in a "flange" of std profiles such UPN/IPN...and sources/books in the subject.

Thank you,
Guideon
 

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My answer to everything - FEA.

But more seriously, I doubt there's an analytic solution to this, which would be why you have that empirical formula for a special beam section. You could get an upper limit to the stress by assuming a beam shorter than the width of the loaded region and use the simple beam equation you did.



guideonl said:
Hi everyone,

Recently I faced a problem in calculating bending stress in a long UPN profile "flange" due to concentrated force.
It seems that the regular/familiar formula for bending stress in a finite/short element does not applicable in local bending of long/infinite beam. See sketch attached for clarification.
An example to such calculation I found in elevator's std for "T" rails calculation which express the stress in the "flange" root:

\sigma=\frac{1.85F}{c^2}

My question is how to calculate such local bending stress in a "flange" of std profiles such UPN/IPN...and sources/books in the subject.

Thank you,
Guideon
 
Hi Unrest,

Thank you for your reply,
I am afraid that your solution to the problem could be used only for estimation purposes, I am still looking for analitical/empirical solutions.

Guideon
 
for an infinite length beam could you not treat the area under load as being built in at a distance away from the load? or use a plastic analysis approach with the concept of moving hinge point along an infinite beam..
take cuts at the hinges and treat as beam with imaginary built in ends (ie a couple applied to the ends of the cut)
with a theoretical max. moment generated either at cut (hogging moment) or at point of load (assuming point load applied) to give a sagging moment. then calculate your second moment of area for the section and using the Engineers Equation (M/I)=(Sigma/y) you can calculate sigma over a range of y and draw the stress distribution across the section @ point of maximum bending

I hope at that helps somewhat..
 
Red jeste,

I am sorry, but I didn't understand your idea at all. May be I didn't clarify myself well, attached sketch may be helpful to clarify your claim.

Thank you
Guideon
 

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