Local Trivialization in Covering Spaces

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the local triviality condition of covering maps in topology. Participants explore the implications of this condition, particularly in relation to fibers, neighborhoods, and the relationship between covering spaces and fiber bundles.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant seeks clarification on the local triviality condition of covering maps, questioning whether the fibers are merely a discrete collection of points or if there is more to it.
  • Another participant explains that if a neighborhood is evenly covered, the preimage can be viewed as a disjoint union of sets homeomorphic to the neighborhood, suggesting a connection to locally trivial fiber bundles.
  • A participant notes the utility of covering spaces for lifting maps of curves into the base space.
  • There is a question raised about whether every bundle with discrete fibers can be considered a covering space, prompting a discussion on the distinctions between the two concepts.
  • One participant affirms that every covering space can be viewed as a bundle with discrete fibers and discusses the role of homeomorphisms in understanding the structure of covering spaces.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express varying degrees of understanding regarding the relationship between covering spaces and fiber bundles. While some agree on the characterization of covering spaces as bundles with discrete fibers, the question of whether every bundle is a covering space remains unresolved.

Contextual Notes

There are assumptions regarding the nature of neighborhoods and the cardinality of fibers that are not fully explored. The discussion also touches on the proper discontinuity of homeomorphisms, which may require further elaboration.

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Hi, All:

I am trying to understand why covering maps have the

local triviality condition, i.e., given a cover C:X-->Y, every point y in Y

has a neighborhood Oy of y with p^-1(Oy)~ Oy x F, where F is the fiber. This

seems confusing, in that fibers of covering maps are a (discrete) collection of points

in X (since local diffeomorphisms are local bijections, the preimages are isolated/discrete)

. Does this statement just mean that the fiber is just a disjoint/discrete

collection of open sets, indexed by the cardinality of the fiber, or is there more than

that to it? I am thinking of standard examples like the covering map f:R-->$S^1$,

given by f(t)=(cost,sint), an infinite-to-one cover; would the Oy here be any 'hood

(neighborhood) of y that evenly-covers y?

Also: if this local triviality holds: is every covering map a bundle

of C over X with singletons as fibers?

Sorry, I know this is simple, but I haven't seen it in a while, and hopefully someone's

comments will jog my memory.
 
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If Oy is evenly covered, then p^{-1}(Oy) is a disjoint union of sets homeomorphic to Oy and there are N of them, where N is the number of sheets of the covering (not necessarily an integer). But it seems indeed that p^{-1}(Oy) can also be seen as a product Oy x S, where S is any set of cardinality N equipped with the discrete topology, thus making a covering space into a locally trivial fiber bundle with discrete fibers.
 
they have it so you can lift maps of curves into the base.
 
Hmm.. that is interesting; every covering space is (can be made into) a bundle with discrete fiber. Is the opposite also the case, that every bundle is a covering space? It would seem so, but then what is the difference between the two?
 
WWGD said:
Hmm.. that is interesting; every covering space is (can be made into) a bundle with discrete fiber. Is the opposite also the case, that every bundle is a covering space? It would seem so, but then what is the difference between the two?

Do you mean that or "is every bundle with discrete fiber a covering space"?
 
Yes. It just means that there are F disjoint homeomorphic copies of the open set in the covering space.

I get a better picture of this when I think of the covering space and a group of homeomorphism of it that wrap it up onto itself. The homeomorphisms act properly discontinuously, that is every point has a neighborhood that is mapped to another neighborhood that is disjoint from it. These are the neighborhoods in the preimage of a neighborhood in the quotient space, the same neighborhood you asked about.
 
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