Logarithm Equation: Rewriting log-x to log -x^2

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The discussion revolves around the rewriting of the logarithmic expression log-x to log -x^2, exploring the implications of such a transformation and the conditions under which it holds. Participants engage in mathematical reasoning and clarification of logarithmic properties.

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  • Technical explanation, Mathematical reasoning, Debate/contested

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  • One participant proposes a transformation of the logarithmic equation, suggesting that log_x(a) can be rewritten in terms of log_{x^2}(a).
  • Another participant questions the validity of a specific equation related to the logarithmic transformation.
  • There is a discussion about the meaningfulness of logarithmic bases, emphasizing that the base must be positive and cannot equal 1.
  • Participants present calculations for potential solutions to an equation derived from the logarithmic expressions, with some indicating that x=1 should be discarded as a solution due to its inappropriateness as a logarithmic base.
  • There is a reiteration of the solutions found, with a focus on identifying the largest valid solution.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the validity of certain equations and the appropriateness of solutions, particularly regarding the exclusion of x=1. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the implications of the logarithmic transformation.

Contextual Notes

Participants note the importance of the base of logarithmic functions and the conditions under which certain solutions are valid, highlighting dependencies on definitions and assumptions related to logarithmic properties.

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Hi

I wonder how I can rewrite log-x to log -x^2
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Hello and welcome to MHB, Heatherirving! (Wave)

Let's consider that:

$$\log_x(a)=b$$

Can be translated from logarithmic to exponential form as:

$$a=x^b$$

Now, let's rewrite this as:

$$a=x^{2\frac{b}{2}}=\left(x^2\right)^{\frac{b}{2}}$$

Now, if we convert this to logarithmic form, we have:

$$\log_{x^2}(a)=\frac{b}{2}$$

And so we conclude:

$$b=\log_x(a)=2\log_{x^2}(a)$$

Or:

$$\log_x(a)=\log_{x^2}\left(a^2\right)$$
 
Is it right to write the equation as:

(3-x)^2 = ( 8-3x-x^2)
 
Heatherirving said:
Is it right to write the equation as:

(3-x)^2 = ( 8-3x-x^2)

Yes, but bear in mind what makes a meaningful logarithmic base. That is:

By definition of logarithmic functions, we know that the base of a logarithmic function is a positive number excluding $x=1$. ;)
 
Through my calculation, I got that X (1) = 1 and X (2) = 0,5 According to the question, you should also indicate the largest (real) solution.

is not 1 a larger real solution than 0,5
 
Heatherirving said:
Through my calculation, I got that X (1) = 1 and X (2) = 0,5 According to the question, you should also indicate the largest (real) solution.

is not 1 a larger real solution than 0,5

We do get $$x\in\left\{\frac{1}{2},1\right\}$$, from the resulting equation, but we have to discard $x=1$ since it makes no sense as a logarithmic base, as it is used in the original equation. So, the only valid solution, and therefore the largest is:

$$x=\frac{1}{2}$$
 
thanks for the help :)
 

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