Logarithmic Question: Solving for Unknowns Using Logarithm Properties"

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Homework Statement


Hi, it maybe stupid question, but I struggle on this problem..
log16(4354)+3/log25(43)=a+b*log25

Homework Equations



Using properties:
logabn=n logab
logn(bc) = lognb+lognc
logba=1/logab

The Attempt at a Solution


I can't find the b number.
log16(4354)+3/log25(43)=6 log162+4log165+3/3log254=6(log22/log216)+4(log25/log216)+1/log254=3/2 + 2log252= 3/2 + 4log25

so a=3/2 b=4 but in the answer they find b to be 2 not 4
Can you please tell me where is my mistake?

Thanks
 
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gl0ck said:

Homework Statement


Hi, it maybe stupid question, but I struggle on this problem..
log16(4354+3/log25(43)=a+b*log25
You're missing a right parenthesis, so it's hard to tell what you're starting with.

Did you mean log16(4354)[/color] +3/log25(43)?
gl0ck said:

Homework Equations



Using properties:
logabn=n logab
logn(bc) = lognb+lognc
logba=1/logab

The Attempt at a Solution


I can't find the b number.
log16(4354+3/log25(43)=6 log162+4log165+3/3log254=6(log22/log216)+4(log25/log216)+1/log254=3/2 + 2log252= 3/2 + 4log25

so a=3/2 b=4 but in the answer they find b to be 2 not 4
Can you please tell me where is my mistake?

Thanks
 
Lol, yes, Sorry it is definitely log16(4354)+3/log25(43)
 
Can we at least presume you know the basic properties of logarithms and so know that [itex]log_{16}(4^35^4)= 3log_{16}(4)+ 4 log_{16}(5)[/itex]? And, of course, since [itex]16= 4^2[/itex], [itex]4= 16^{1/2}[/itex] so that [itex]log_{16}(4)= 1/2[/itex]. That is, [tex]log_{16}(4^35^4)= 3+ 4log_{16}(5)[/tex]
[itex]log_{25}(4^3)= 3log_{25}(4)[/itex].

Perhaps what you are missing is that [itex]\log_a(x)= \frac{log_b(x)}{log_a(b)}[/itex]. You can use that to change the [itex]log_{25}[/itex] to [itex]log_{16}[/itex]. Further, since, [itex]16= 2^4[/itex], [itex]log_{2}(16)= 4[/itex] and so [itex]log_{16}(x)= \frac{log_2(x)}{4}[/itex]

You can use that to change everything to [itex]log_2[/itex] as you have on the right.
 
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HallsofIvy said:
Perhaps what you are missing is that [itex]\log_a(x)= \frac{log_b(x)}{log_a(b)}[/itex]


I'm noob, but I think that you meant
[itex]\log_a(x)= \frac{log_b(x)}{log_b(a)}[/itex]
Mainly because if you start with one base and end with two it was not a change of base.
I may be wrong.
 
besulzbach said:
I'm noob, but I think that you meant
[itex]\log_a(x)= \frac{log_b(x)}{log_b(a)}[/itex]
Mainly because if you start with one base and end with two it was not a change of base.
I may be wrong.


Don't worry, you're correct :-p
 
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