Logarithmic Question: Solving for Unknowns Using Logarithm Properties"

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The discussion revolves around solving a logarithmic equation involving multiple logarithm properties. The original poster presents an equation that includes logarithms with different bases and seeks to find unknown variables.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants explore the properties of logarithms to manipulate the equation. There is a focus on identifying the correct values for the variables a and b, with some participants questioning the original poster's calculations and assumptions regarding the logarithmic properties used.

Discussion Status

Participants are actively engaging with the problem, providing insights into logarithmic transformations and suggesting alternative approaches. There is a recognition of potential mistakes in the original calculations, but no consensus has been reached regarding the correct values of a and b.

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There is a noted confusion regarding the correct interpretation of the logarithmic expression due to a missing parenthesis in the original statement. This has led to varying interpretations of the problem setup.

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Homework Statement


Hi, it maybe stupid question, but I struggle on this problem..
log16(4354)+3/log25(43)=a+b*log25

Homework Equations



Using properties:
logabn=n logab
logn(bc) = lognb+lognc
logba=1/logab

The Attempt at a Solution


I can't find the b number.
log16(4354)+3/log25(43)=6 log162+4log165+3/3log254=6(log22/log216)+4(log25/log216)+1/log254=3/2 + 2log252= 3/2 + 4log25

so a=3/2 b=4 but in the answer they find b to be 2 not 4
Can you please tell me where is my mistake?

Thanks
 
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gl0ck said:

Homework Statement


Hi, it maybe stupid question, but I struggle on this problem..
log16(4354+3/log25(43)=a+b*log25
You're missing a right parenthesis, so it's hard to tell what you're starting with.

Did you mean log16(4354)[/color] +3/log25(43)?
gl0ck said:

Homework Equations



Using properties:
logabn=n logab
logn(bc) = lognb+lognc
logba=1/logab

The Attempt at a Solution


I can't find the b number.
log16(4354+3/log25(43)=6 log162+4log165+3/3log254=6(log22/log216)+4(log25/log216)+1/log254=3/2 + 2log252= 3/2 + 4log25

so a=3/2 b=4 but in the answer they find b to be 2 not 4
Can you please tell me where is my mistake?

Thanks
 
Lol, yes, Sorry it is definitely log16(4354)+3/log25(43)
 
Can we at least presume you know the basic properties of logarithms and so know that log_{16}(4^35^4)= 3log_{16}(4)+ 4 log_{16}(5)? And, of course, since 16= 4^2, 4= 16^{1/2} so that log_{16}(4)= 1/2. That is, log_{16}(4^35^4)= 3+ 4log_{16}(5)
log_{25}(4^3)= 3log_{25}(4).

Perhaps what you are missing is that \log_a(x)= \frac{log_b(x)}{log_a(b)}. You can use that to change the log_{25} to log_{16}. Further, since, 16= 2^4, log_{2}(16)= 4 and so log_{16}(x)= \frac{log_2(x)}{4}

You can use that to change everything to log_2 as you have on the right.
 
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HallsofIvy said:
Perhaps what you are missing is that \log_a(x)= \frac{log_b(x)}{log_a(b)}


I'm noob, but I think that you meant
\log_a(x)= \frac{log_b(x)}{log_b(a)}
Mainly because if you start with one base and end with two it was not a change of base.
I may be wrong.
 
besulzbach said:
I'm noob, but I think that you meant
\log_a(x)= \frac{log_b(x)}{log_b(a)}
Mainly because if you start with one base and end with two it was not a change of base.
I may be wrong.


Don't worry, you're correct :-p
 
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