LOGIC: A Request for Clarification of definitions

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This discussion focuses on the definitions of key terms in the study of logic, specifically "True," "False," "Proven," "Provable," "Unprovable," and "Correct." It emphasizes the importance of understanding these concepts within the framework of mathematical logic rather than philosophical debates. The conversation suggests that clarity in these definitions is essential for grasping the foundational aspects of logical reasoning and encourages readers to explore mathematical logic literature for deeper insights.

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  • Understanding of deductive arguments and logical validity
  • Familiarity with mathematical logic concepts
  • Knowledge of formal languages in logic
  • Basic comprehension of axioms and interpretations
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  • Read "Mathematical Logic" by Stephen Cole Kleene for foundational concepts
  • Explore formal languages and their role in defining truth
  • Study second-order logic notation and its applications
  • Investigate the relationship between semantics and syntactic correctness in logic
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With the study of logic, lots of words get thrown around that I don't really understand their complete meaning. With a deductive argument the conclusion is true if the premises are true, and an argument is valid if all the inferences (and the conclusion) follow logically from the axioms. These are things taught in any intro to logic class, but the more important question is: "What is truth?" Not just philosophically, but in the realm of logic. If something is proven does that mean it is true? If something is provable, does that mean it is true? Which immediately asks the question, what is provable, and what is proven? This isn't an issue of picking words apart, it's a question of logic. How are these concepts defined in the formal study of logic?

Here's a list of words that I require clarification for, wiki isn't always helpful...
*True
*False
*Proven
*Provable
*Unprovable
*Correct

This is a serious query, I am not interested in getting into an argument on the nature of definitions, please do not consider "What is truth?" to be a profound philosophical question. The issue is what is true from a logical foundation.
 
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To get an understanding of truth as a concept in mathematical logic, you should read about the definitions of language, formula in a language, structure and variable assignment functions. A definition of truth of a formula in a language uses all these terms. I suggest you get yourself a book in mathematical logic.

I suggest this thread to be moved to the math forums logic section...
 
"get yourself a book in mathematical logic"
Any recommendations?

"Mathematical logic" sounds like a better home, but I don't know how to move the thread. Conversely if we leave the thread in logic, is the definition of truth intrinsically linked with the language of the speaker (this case English)? I'm going to assume that you meant a formal language, but I'm not aware of a logical formal language that describes True and False in a logical context. Is it a second-order logic notation?
 
Long time ago, but I'll try and see how far I'll get. I am actually interested in how many flukes I'll make on this one.

*True, derivable either from axioms or true under all interpretations. (Philosophers may differ on the real meaning of truth.)
*False, derivably false or false under an interpretation
*Proven, a statement for which a derivation exists (or all interpretations are proven to be true)
*Provable, as in provable to be true, a statement for which it can be proven that it can be proven
*Unprovable, as in provable not to be true, a statement for which it can be proven not to be true (either since it is false, or it can't be proven true)
*Correct, dunno? As in semantic or syntactic correctness?
 
Doesn't meet criteria for Philosophy or logic, it's not a problem.
 

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