Looking for info that reflects negativly on U.N.

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Discussion Overview

The discussion centers around perceptions of the United Nations (UN), particularly focusing on claims of corruption and calls for reform or disbandment. Participants explore various events and opinions that reflect negatively on the UN, including its effectiveness in humanitarian efforts and peacekeeping missions. The conversation includes references to specific programs and historical events, as well as broader critiques of the UN's structure and authority.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants assert that the UN is corrupt and should be reformed or disbanded, often linking this to the idea that the organization should be controlled by the United States.
  • The "Oil-for-Food Programme" is cited as a significant example of UN corruption, with some arguing it ultimately helped prevent starvation in Iraq despite its flaws.
  • Concerns are raised about the UN's failures in humanitarian crises, specifically referencing events in Rwanda, Yugoslavia, and Sudan, where the UN's response is viewed as inadequate.
  • Some participants argue that the UN is often used as a scapegoat for failures that are actually the responsibility of its permanent member states.
  • There are conflicting views on whether the UN's failures are due to its structure or the actions of its member states, particularly the permanent members of the Security Council.
  • Participants express skepticism about the effectiveness of international governance through the UN, with some suggesting that successful international cooperation is unrealistic.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express a range of opinions, with no clear consensus on the UN's effectiveness or the validity of claims regarding its corruption. Multiple competing views remain regarding the UN's role and responsibility in global issues.

Contextual Notes

Discussions include references to specific historical events and programs, but the interpretations of these events vary widely among participants. The conversation reflects differing assumptions about the UN's authority and the responsibilities of its member states.

  • #31
The Smoking Man said:
So how many metaphors is enough, mixed and otherwise (... topple the civilized world on its ear ... !?) sacked by similies, combat through comparisons, ravaged by rants, marauded by metaphores, enthralled by thugs, mesmerized through machinations and annoyed with annotations and alliteration is enough.
It is with a deep sense of regret, nay did I say regret ... not that, but upset with a deep and heartfelt twinge in my left lower leg that on this auspicious occasion, a thursday or is it friday, no matter ... that now having lost interst or should I say that we have become bored with the intertwinings of thought that, when gathered together in one post become less understandable to the point of incomprehensible to a person of unlikely intelligence and little access to the online entity known as the Roget's Thesaurus and yet I have a copy of the great Oxford 12 volume unabridged ...
Dude.
Are you paid by the word or the yawn?


Oh, God forbid, look up any words!

Thanks for taking the time to add your well thought out comments to my experience. We've all been deeply enriched.

Bumper sticker debate is in fact a fine art, well suited for some. Not me; I can live with that affliction, it is one unfortunately yet without a Telethon.

Yet, truly, wouldn't I serve your sentiment by removing all the uneeded consonants in my posts?

A i I ae a a' a aou a oe aoou u o e i-e-e ou.

There; now wasn't that even better? See? Same net result. I'm happy, you're happy, we can all get on with our interesting lives.

Now, before we forget our places in this little communal activity, thank you for participating in my cheap substitute for much needed therapy. The purpose of my words serve me the millisecond my fingers leave my keyboard. My purpose for this mental masturbation is not to inform, bedazzle, impress, seek approval of, or otherwise give a rat's ass about what anonymous yutz'es on the in-ter-net claim they 'think' about what I've dumped on this public bathroom wall. What your purpose is, I have no clue or care, but from my point of view, your entirely incidental participation in my mental masterbation is to be the Kleenex, for which I thank you yet again for providing an opportunity to cast a mental image.
 
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  • #32
You havn't answered the question... Do you get paid by the word or by the yawn?
 
  • #33
Zlex said:
your entirely incidental participation in my mental masterbation is to be the Kleenex, for which I thank you yet again for providing an opportunity to cast a mental image.
I had you pictured as a sock man; not wanting to get the screen sticky.
 
  • #34
please don't kill my post :frown:

i thought it was going well for a while there too
 

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