Looking for info that reflects negativly on U.N.

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Anyone who runs for president on a “dump the UN” platform gets my vote.
I so hope that happens, the UN doesnt need the US anyway, as long as we have Russia China the UK France and Japan you can regress back into your pre ww2 days and burry your head in the sand, and meanwhile the rest of the world can club together and try and solve the problems facing the world today, with out your middle East veto poping up all the time!
 
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Anttech said:
I so hope that happens, the UN doesnt need the US anyway, as long as we have Russia China the UK France and Japan you can regress back into your pre ww2 days and burry your head in the sand, and meanwhile the rest of the world can club together and try and solve the problems facing the world today, with out your middle East veto poping up all the time!
Just like they did with Kyoto ...

And even then, some us states have ratified it independently.

They actually have states bypassing the Federal Government.

To me, that almost sounds like running on a platform of ditch the feds.:surprised
 
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The Smoking Man said:
Just like they did with Kyoto ...
And even then, some us states have ratified it independently.
They actually have states bypassing the Federal Government.
To me, that almost sounds like running on a platform of ditch the feds.:surprised
Ha! Really? That's like... totally awsome.
 
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Devil Fire,

I implore you, if you have the time, and if it is possible, find FrontLine's Ghosts of Rwanda, use PBS online to finds out when and where it is showing in your market, find the time to sit through those two hours, and then think about what mistakes we have made in the past when confronted with megapolitical thugs.

A UN "peacekeeping" mission that provides the false hope of actual protection does more ultimate damage than no mission at all. You need to gaze at the bewilderment in the faces of the survivors, a sadness beyond shock, miles beyond loss of hope and faith in your fellow man and his basic concern for humanity--all of the things that in our best hopes, we'd wish the UN was all about--and then, try and find the upside of that UN "peacekeeping" mission.

By repeatedly acting as it always has, the UN is increasingly removing even hypothetical restraint. Instead of a world institution that intends to foster peace, through its actual instances of failing to enforce this peace, it is serving as an institution that is systematically surrendering the civilized world to thuggery.

It has become the civilized world's offical spokesman of surrender, by unilaterally trying to repeal the Paradox of Violence, and in so doing, in fact, surrendering the world to violence.

I wonder, is it just utopic optimism? Is it just puddingheaded wishful thinking?

Maybe, in some, or even most. But, for some, if one's goal is to actually topple the civilized world on its ear, to foment world chaos, to destroy all remnants of the current order, who knows, to ride the tiger and try and replace it with some alternate order which will supposedly self-evolve from the chaos, then the UN as in its present role is a Hell of a way way to go. It's like a fifth column action, at the heart of the civilized world, working 24/7 to destroy it. "Never mind us, we're here in the city working overtime, destroying civilization's credible means to inhibit thuggery, trust us, it's for your own good. Give Peace a chance, how can you argue with that? I mean, who doesn't want peace?."

Of course, it should go without saying that, if one regards the current order as inherently evil, then destroying it is not seen as a bad thing. And, there we are.


Cutting and running in Somalia was a mistake. If the folks who were actually there are bitter ove rthat experience, it is not over the loss and bloddy nose, but over the command from above to cut and run immediately as a response; they intuitively know what that cowardly action cost.


Cutting and running in Rwanda was a mistake. Never moind bneoing on the ground with actual force--as it turns out in that instance, even if unarmed westerners had simply held their ground, bore witness, and said "No, you cannot do this," that might well have been enough. Instead, the civilized world ran fleeing, and its 'armed' representatives of authority averted their eyes to the ground and did nothing.

As of late, the UN has been failing miserably, and not simply because the balance of the world has failed to simply hand over sovereignty to a bunch of clueless puddingheads, but because in those instances where it has--ask the Belgians--the UN has repeatedly come up short. The UN is institutionally opposed to ~any~ use of force--a monumental and fundamental ignorance of the Paradox of Violence and its role in defending civilization from chaos.
 
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Zlex said:
...You need to gaze at the bewilderment in the faces of the survivors, a sadness beyond shock, miles beyond loss of hope and faith in your fellow man and his basic concern for humanity ... topple the civilized world on its ear, to foment world chaos, to destroy all remnants of the current order, who knows, to ride the tiger and try and replace it with some alternate order which will supposedly self-evolve from the chaos...
So how many metaphors is enough, mixed and otherwise (... topple the civilized world on its ear ... !?) sacked by similies, combat through comparisons, ravaged by rants, marauded by metaphores, enthralled by thugs, mesmerized through machinations and annoyed with annotations and alliteration is enough.

It is with a deep sense of regret, nay did I say regret ... not that, but upset with a deep and heartfelt twinge in my left lower leg that on this auspicious occasion, a thursday or is it friday, no matter ... that now having lost interst or should I say that we have become bored with the intertwinings of thought that, when gathered together in one post become less understandable to the point of incomprehensible to a person of unlikely intelligence and little access to the online entity known as the Roget's Thesaurus and yet I have a copy of the great Oxford 12 volume unabridged ....

Dude.

Are you paid by the word or the yawn?
 
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The Smoking Man said:
So how many metaphors is enough, mixed and otherwise (... topple the civilized world on its ear ... !?) sacked by similies, combat through comparisons, ravaged by rants, marauded by metaphores, enthralled by thugs, mesmerized through machinations and annoyed with annotations and alliteration is enough.
It is with a deep sense of regret, nay did I say regret ... not that, but upset with a deep and heartfelt twinge in my left lower leg that on this auspicious occasion, a thursday or is it friday, no matter ... that now having lost interst or should I say that we have become bored with the intertwinings of thought that, when gathered together in one post become less understandable to the point of incomprehensible to a person of unlikely intelligence and little access to the online entity known as the Roget's Thesaurus and yet I have a copy of the great Oxford 12 volume unabridged ....
Dude.
Are you paid by the word or the yawn?


Oh, God forbid, look up any words!

Thanks for taking the time to add your well thought out comments to my experience. We've all been deeply enriched.

Bumper sticker debate is in fact a fine art, well suited for some. Not me; I can live with that affliction, it is one unfortunately yet without a Telethon.

Yet, truly, wouldn't I serve your sentiment by removing all the uneeded consonants in my posts?

A i I ae a a' a aou a oe aoou u o e i-e-e ou.

There; now wasn't that even better? See? Same net result. I'm happy, you're happy, we can all get on with our interesting lives.

Now, before we forget our places in this little communal activity, thank you for participating in my cheap substitute for much needed therapy. The purpose of my words serve me the millisecond my fingers leave my keyboard. My purpose for this mental masturbation is not to inform, bedazzle, impress, seek approval of, or otherwise give a rat's ass about what anonymous yutz'es on the in-ter-net claim they 'think' about what I've dumped on this public bathroom wall. What your purpose is, I have no clue or care, but from my point of view, your entirely incidental participation in my mental masterbation is to be the Kleenex, for which I thank you yet again for providing an opportunity to cast a mental image.
 
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You havn't answered the question... Do you get paid by the word or by the yawn?
 
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Zlex said:
your entirely incidental participation in my mental masterbation is to be the Kleenex, for which I thank you yet again for providing an opportunity to cast a mental image.
I had you pictured as a sock man; not wanting to get the screen sticky.:yuck:
 
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devil-fire
please dont kill my post :frown:

i thought it was going well for a while there too
 

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