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The discussion revolves around identifying the source of a quote related to the universe and human understanding, which the original poster recalls as being attributed to a Russian astrophysicist from the 1920s or 1930s. The context includes references to cosmology and nature, with connections to notable figures like Richard Feynman and J.S. Haldane.

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  • The original poster seeks the source of a quote about discovering things about the universe that are unimaginable, recalling it may have originated from a Russian astrophysicist in the early 20th century.
  • Another participant mentions a Feynman lecture from the 1950s that touches on similar themes regarding nature and human imagination, though the exact quote is not provided.
  • A different participant suggests a quote from British biologist J.S. Haldane, which expresses a similar sentiment about the universe being queerer than we can suppose.
  • There is uncertainty about the exact source of the Feynman quote, with participants discussing the difficulty of pinpointing it among various lectures.

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Participants do not reach a consensus on the exact source of the quote, and multiple competing views regarding its origin remain present.

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The discussion includes references to various figures and their potential quotes, but lacks definitive citations or clarity on the original quote's authorship.

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For a neuroscience book I am writing, I am looking for the person who first said/wrote the following quote: "We discover things about the universe we can no longer even imagine." THIS MAY NOT BE THE EXACT QUOTE, BUT ONLY HOW I RECALL IT FROM ABOUT TEN YEARS AGO. I think it was from a Russian astrophysicist, and I think it was from the 1920s or 1930s.
 
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Mondo11 said:
For a neuroscience book I am writing, I am looking for the person who first said/wrote the following quote: "We discover things about the universe we can no longer even imagine." THIS MAY NOT BE THE EXACT QUOTE, BUT ONLY HOW I RECALL IT FROM ABOUT TEN YEARS AGO. I think it was from a Russian astrophysicist, and I think it was from the 1920s or 1930s.
I was just watching a Feynman lecture (at Cornell) from around 1950s. He said something like that regarding not just cosmology but nature in general.
Something to the effect that "We discover things about nature that we cannot imagine."
I'm afraid that's not of any use to you---it had a kind of matter-of-fact ring. the tone was not poetical. He then proceeded to explain WHY we weren't prepared to imagine or grasp intuitively the kind of things we were learning about nature. and why this was only to be expected. analogies don't necessarily work over widely different scales.
 
Mondo11 said:
For a neuroscience book I am writing, I am looking for the person who first said/wrote the following quote: "We discover things about the universe we can no longer even imagine." THIS MAY NOT BE THE EXACT QUOTE, BUT ONLY HOW I RECALL IT FROM ABOUT TEN YEARS AGO. I think it was from a Russian astrophysicist, and I think it was from the 1920s or 1930s.

What about a British biologist? J.S. Haldane reportedly said "My own suspicion is that the universe is not only queerer than we suppose, but queerer than we can suppose."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/J._B._S._Haldane

I use this (supposed) quote a lot.
 
Marcus, Well, that quote of Feynman's may be what I am recalling. Can you tell me where to find the lecture?
 
Mondo11 said:
Marcus, Well, that quote of Feynman's may be what I am recalling. Can you tell me where to find the lecture?

I can't pinpoint it. The day I encountered it, I started by watching this Feynman talk:

and it could be in that one, in the last half or third of the talk.
But that same day I also sampled others of the same series of talks which Youtube provides links to in the margin. I may not be able to find it again without an unreasonable effort. I'll give it a try, time permitting.
 
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Thank you, Marcus. I shall take it from here. I always enjoy watching Feynman.
 

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