Loop-and-allied QG bibliography

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  • #101
current research numbers ("demographics")

In another thread the question of "majority consensus" (or one might say "research demographics") came up again.
Numbers of papers, or even numbers of blockbuster papers that get lots of follow-up citations, don't necessarily mean all that much but the issue gets raised now and then so we should have some kind of objective data. There is a small and increasing output of papers in Loop Gravity:

Curious about quantifying this, I went to arxiv.org "Search Physics Archives" page and put in [ABS = loop quantum gravity]OR[ABS = spin foam]OR[ABS = loop quantum cosmology] since 2000. The engine found
these numbers of papers:

2000 46
2001 48
2002 64
2003 70

Y(2/11) 73*

These are the preprints at the archive that have somewhere in their ABSTRACTS either the words loop quantum gravity, or the words spin foam, or the words loop quantum cosmology.
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Although I'm not especially interested in string/brane theories, some people seem interested in comparisons so here's the same numbers for
[ABS = string]OR[ABS = brane]OR[ABS = M-theory]


2000 1457
2001 1496
2002 1500
2003 1265

Y(2/11) 911*

That is, those where the abstract summary of the paper has in it somewhere the word string, or the word brane, or the word M-theory.

*The search engine also has a "Past Year" option which gives the papers posted in the year-to-date: the preceding 12 months. On February 11 I ran the same check for year-to-date and got corresponding numbers for the "Year to 2/11" which I've listed here separately as Y(2/11).

Y(2/11) reflects activity in part of the calendar year 2003 and in part of the calendar year 2004.
 
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  • #102
recent work on the area spectrum

Meteor started us collecting recent work bearing on
the vibration of black holes and the Loop Gravty area spectrum.


Gilad Gour and V. Suneeta
"Comparison of area spectra in loop quantum gravity"
http://arxiv.org/abs/gr-qc/0401110

Alexios Polychronakos
Area spectrum and quasinormal modes of black holes
http://arxiv.org/hep-th/0304135

Alekseev, Polychronakos, Smedbaeck
On the area and entropy of a black hole
http://arxiv.org/hep-th/0004036

Gour and Suneeta are at the University of Alberta.
Alexkseev and Smedbaeck are at the Institute for Theoretical Physics, Upsala University, in Sweden
Polychronakos is at the University of Ioannina in Greece and also the
CUNY Physics Department in the USA.

Setare and Vagenas
"Area Spectrum of Kerr and extremal Kerr Black Holes from Quasinormal Modes"
http://arxiv.org/hep-th/0401187

Berti, Cardoso, Yoshida
"Highly Damped Quasinormal Modes of Kerr Black Holes: A Complete Numerical Investigation"
http://arxiv.org/gr-qc/0401052

Setare is in Iran, Vagenas at Barcelona.
Berti is in St. Louis, Cardosoo and Yoshida are in Portugal.

Here is the link for this post:
https://www.physicsforums.com/showthread.php?s=&postid=140731#post140731
 
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  • #103
Didn't Lubos write or cowrite a paper on this subject? I seem to remember it being mentioned some months ago on s.p.r.
 
  • #104
Originally posted by selfAdjoint
Didn't Lubos write or cowrite a paper on this subject? I seem to remember it being mentioned some months ago on s.p.r.

Sure did. One solo and one with Andy Neitzke that I know of.
would you like the links?

why don't I give them in any case:
Lubos' paper:
http://arxiv.org/gr-qc/0212096

Lubos and Andy's paper:
http://arxiv.org/hep-th/0301173

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what's exciting about the more recent paper by Gour and Suneeta
is that they challenge the Area operator spectrum derived by Rovelli and Smolin in 1994 and propose a quantum correction in the area.

this resolves a long-standing difficulty and produces some nice
results.

Meteor brought the paper in. I've been reading it and like it quite a bit. (it is however "revisionist" in a sense)

afterthought edit: selfAdjoint, I put a longer discussion of the LQG area spectrum in the thread called "Loop Quantum Gravity". Didnt want to take extra space in this thread which is serving as a link-basket.
 
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  • #105
Program for the May LoopFoam Conference

A couple of days ago Rovelli posted the program for the May 2004 Conference (at Luminy on the Mediterranean)

the organizers:
Laurent Freidel
Philippe Roche
Carlo Rovelli



----exerpted material in no particular order----

A tentative list of morning speakers, still to be confirmed, is as
follows

Loops:
Abhay Ashtekar (quantum geometry)
Thomas Thiemann (dynamics and low energy)
Lee Smolin (overall results)
Ted Jacobson (devil's advocate)

Applications:
Martin Bojowald (loop cosmology)
Alejandro Corichi (black holes)
Daniel Sudarsky (phenomenology)

Spin foams:
John Baez (spinfoams)
Laurent Freidel (GFT, sum over complexes)
John Barrett (BC model)
Alejandro Perez (spinfoams)

Related approaches:
Jorge Pullin (consistent discretization)
Peter Forcacs or Max Neidermair (fixed point)
Ian Ambjorn or Renate Loll (dynamical triangulations)
John Klauder (general covariant dynamics)

...
...

6. SCIENTIFIC PROGRAM

Aim of the conference is to make the point on where we are in the
loop/spinfoam approach to quantum gravity. In particular:
evaluate the results obtained so far, point out open problems,
and discuss the directions of development that appear to be most
promising. The conference is therefore mostly (but not
exclusively) addressed to our community. The four days will
focus on 1) Loops, 2) Applications, 3) Spinfoams, 4) Related
approaches.

The conference will be articulated in:
- morning talks of approximately 30 minutes, meant to summarize the
present state of the different aspects of the field, followed by
ample discussion time.
- afternoon presentations of novel results. The duration of
these will be decided dividing the available time by the
number of communications accepted.
- A panel session, followed by a general discussion, on the last
day.

----end of exerpts----

Philippe Roche at the University of Montpellier has this webpage about the conference:
http://w3.lpm.univ-montp2.fr/~philippe/quantumgravitywebsite/

Other conferences: Here are some recent and upcoming ones mentioned in a previous post in this thread.

...
...

-------recent conferences------

Strings meet Loops (Albert Einstein Institute, MPI-Potsdam) October 2003
http://www.aei-potsdam.mpg.de/events/stringloop.html

Loop Gravity Workshop (Mexico City) January 2004
http://www.nuclecu.unam.mx/~corichi/lqg.htm

International Conference on Gravity and Cosmology (India) January 2004
http://www.cusat.ac.in/icgc04/

Quantum Gravity Phenomenology, (40th annual Polish Winterschool in Theoretical Physics) February 2004
http://www.ws2004.ift.uni.wroc.pl/html.html

--------upcoming conferences--------


Loop/SpinFoam Conference (Marseille) May 2004
http://www.maths.qmul.ac.uk/wbin/GRnews/conference?03Aug.1
http://www.maths.qmul.ac.uk/wbin/GRnewsfind/conference?10

General Relativity Conference (Dublin) July 2004
more annoucements at
http://www.maths.qmul.ac.uk/wbin/GRnewsfind/conference?conference

...
...
 
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  • #106
"Big crunch avoidance in k=1 loop quantum cosmology"
http://arxiv.org/abs/gr-qc/0312110
Authors: Parampreet Singh, Alexey Toporensky
Abstract:
"It is well known that a closed universe with a minimally coupled massive scalar field always collapses to a singularity unless the initial conditions are extremely fine tuned. We show that the corrections to the equations of motion for the massive scalar field, given by loop quantum gravity in high curvature regime, always lead to a bounce independently of the initial conditions. In contrast to the previous works in loop quantum cosmology, we note that the singularity can be avoided even at the semi-classical level of effective dynamical equations with quantum modifications, without using a discrete quantum evolution"



k refers to curvature. In the case k=1 it represents a flat universe. In the text there's discussion about the geometrical density operator (never heard of this operator before). The effective Friedmann equation for LQC is presented, also the Raychaudhuri equation
 
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  • #107
Originally posted by meteor
"Big crunch avoidance in k=1 loop quantum cosmology"
http://arxiv.org/abs/gr-qc/0312110
Authors: Parampreet Singh, Alexey Toporensky


k refers to curvature. In the case k=1 it represents a flat universe. In the text there's discussion about the geometrical density operator (never heard of this operator before). The effective Friedmann equation for LQC is presented, also the Raychaudhuri equation

Meteor, Bojowald recently gave a survey and cited this article. It was a plenary talk on loop quantum cosmology at a January 5-10
conference called "ICGC 2004"
So he must think it is a good paper. I have not read it. I think the flat case is k=0 and the k=1 case is positive curvature----which would normally lead to a big crunch (at least in the sort of ordinary cosmology we used to have before there was a cosmological constant)

Bojowald's survey talk at the conference is online at arxiv and it has links to lots of recent LQC papers which saves us trouble in that department. One link for many:
Bojowald
Loop Quantum Cosmology: Recent Progress
http://arxiv.org/gr-qc/0402053
 
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  • #108
Phenomenology Conference going on now

There is an event going on now (Feb 4-14) in Poland
about Quantum Gravity Phenomenology
Here is the latest speaker list I could find:
--------quote from program-------
Speakers:

E. Alvarez---Quantum Gravity
G. Amelino-Camelia---Introduction to quantum gravity phenomenology
P. De Bernardis---Cosmology with BOOMERANG, WMAP
A. Grillo---Planck-scale kinematics and the Pierre Auger Observatory
T. Jacobson---Astrophysical bounds on Planck-supressed Lorentz violation
J. Kowalski-Glikman---Introduction to doubly special relativity
C. Laemmerzahl---Tests of Lorentz symmetry in space and interferometry
P. Lipari---Ultra-high-energy cosmic-rays
J. Martin---Trans-Planckian cosmology
N. Mavromatos---PCT symmetry and quantum gravity phenomenology
T. Piran---Gamma-ray bursts
J. Pullin---Canonical quantum gravity phenomenology
L. Smolin---Cosmological constant in Quantum Gravity


...to gather together world-leading scientists working on the field of quantum gravity, astrophysics, and cosmology along with a number of post-graduate students and young post-docs and to offer young scientists the opportunity to learn about recent developments in the theoretical investigation of Planck-scale physics that might be tested experimentally in the near future. The lectures presented at the School would provide a broad coverage of subjects relevant for this field, including models of the fate of Lorentz invariance in quantum space-time, loop quantum gravity and string theory, cosmology and astrophysics.
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  • #109
the so-called "Bohr compactification" of the real line
is named after Harald Bohr (b.1877, Niels younger bro)

Hans Halvorson at Princeton is a quality mathematician-cum-philosopher and I like the way he writes. he seems to think philosophically about quantum mechanics but also do functional analysis and topology as well. don't know any more about him.

"Complementarity of representations in quantum mechanics"
http://arxiv.org/quant-ph/0110102

AFAIK no one here has already noted Halvorson or this paper.

The Bohr compactification is important to cosmology and not much is on line about it, but Halvorson's paper is online, and see bottom of page 9, around equation (11) for a brief discussion

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To see how the Bohr compactification fits into quantum cosmology see

Viqar Husain and Oliver Winkler
"On singularity resolution in quantum gravity"
http://arxiv.org/gr-qc/0312094

Best kind of confirmation of Bojowald's work because derives similar results (removal of BB singularity) entirely outside of the Loop Gravity framework.

Bohr compactification enters at top of page 6, right after they introduce the almost periodic functions on the Reals:

"It is well-known that AP(R) is naturally isomorphic to C(RBohr), the algebra of continuous functions on the so-called Bohr-compactification of R. As the name suggests, RBohr is a compact group which can be obtained as the dual group of Rdiscr, the real line endowed with the discrete topology. This suggests that taking
L2(RBohr,dµ0),
where µ0 is Haar measure on RBohr, as the
Hilbert space for our theory is a viable option. This is the decisive point where we depart from the traditional approach in geometrodynamics, where the Hilbert space is the conventional Schroedinger space L2(R, dx). Once we adopt this new choice, basis states in our Hilbert space are..."

they don't use the Ashtekar variables! they don't use the connection! they use the same ADM variables that Wheeler and DeWitt tried to use!
but they still manage to remove the Big Bang singularity.
the key thing turns out not to be cooking down LQG to get LQC
but something about an idea Harald Bohr had about "almost periodic functions" and something about topology.

Like what they say on page 10:

"Our main result is that there is an alternative to the Schroedinger quantization of the FRW cosmology in the standard ADM geometrodynamical variables. This quantization leads to conclusions
qualitatively similar to those obtained in loop quantum cosmology starting from the connection triad variables: (i) the Hamiltonian constraint acts like a difference operator, and (ii) the inverse scale factor can be represented as a densely defined operator.

Thus it is the representation space and the realizations of the basic observables rather than the nature of the classical variables that are responsible for the similar conclusions for this model."

their italics, my bolding

thanks to Ranyart for calling Viqar Husain/Oliver Winkler's paper to my attention.
 
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  • #110
Two recent DSR papers

Two new papers were just posted on Doubly Special Relativity

http://arxiv.org/gr-qc/0402092
Giovanni Amelino-Camelia
"Some encouraging and some cautionary remarks on Double Special Relativity in Quantum Gravity"
dated 22 February

(based on a talk given at the 10th Marcel Grossmann meeting on GR)

http://arxiv.org/hep-th/0402117
Jerzy Lukierski
"Relation between quantum kappa-Poincare framework and Doubly Special Relativity"
dated 18 February
 
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  • #111
Jose Mourao has co-authored numerously with such folk as Ashtekar, Lewandowski, Marolf, Thiemann, Renate Loll, and was thesis advisor of Jose Manuel Velhinho

here is a picture of Mourao and some bio stuff
http://www.math.ist.utl.pt/~jmourao/textojm.html

Velhinho's work on disertation with Mourao covered 1995-2001

This looks to me like a good new paper by Velhinho
http://arxiv.org/math-ph/0402060
It presents a summary of how the development of LQG is going
and the style is efficient, not cumbersome. He writes as
a mathematician.

On page 19 is treated the issue of spatial diff invariance---which was the basis of the "nonstandardness" discussion with Urs and others in the TT Loop-String thread, or so I gather from Urs' recent posts.
it is an interesting issue and Velhinho provides a concise overview in a couple of pages.

Velhinho is at University of Beira in Portugal
Murao is in the Mathematics Department at Lisbon Tech (the Inst. Sup. Tech)
 
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  • #112
LQG connects with semiclassical study of black holes
(through the BH entropy formula, Hawking radiation and QN modes)
Here are two interesting papers about Hawking radiation
(predicting that it is not perfectly thermal when quantum effects are adjusted for, and describing the mechanism)

Frank Wilczek and Maulik Parikh
"Hawking Radiation as Tunneling"
http://arxiv.org/hep-th/9907001

Maulik Parikh
"Energy Conservation and Hawking Radiation"
http://arxiv.org/hep-th/0402166
6 pages, dated 23 February
 
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  • #113
"Dynamics of loop quantum gravity and spin foam models in three dimensions":
http://arxiv.org/abs/gr-qc/0402112
Authors: Karim Noui, Alejandro Perez
Abstract:

"We present a rigorous regularization of Rovellis's generalized projection operator in canonical 2+1 gravity. This work establishes a clear-cut connection between loop quantum gravity and the spin foam approach in this simplified setting. The point of view adopted here provides a new perspective to tackle the problem of dynamics in the physically relevant
3+1 case."

I just printed it out :)
 
  • #114
Originally posted by meteor
"Dynamics of loop quantum gravity and spin foam models in three dimensions":
http://arxiv.org/abs/gr-qc/0402112
Authors: Karim Noui, Alejandro Perez
Abstract:

"We present a rigorous regularization of Rovellis's generalized projection operator in canonical 2+1 gravity. This work establishes a clear-cut connection between loop quantum gravity and the spin foam approach in this simplified setting. The point of view adopted here provides a new perspective to tackle the problem of dynamics in the physically relevant
3+1 case."

I just printed it out :)

Likewise here, but are you aware there are a number of other compatable papers? all preceeding and very relevant:

http://uk.arxiv.org/abs/gr-qc/0402110

http://uk.arxiv.org/abs/gr-qc/0402111

http://uk.arxiv.org/abs/gr-qc/0402112

http://uk.arxiv.org/PS_cache/gr-qc/pdf/0402/0402113.pdf


Just as an after thought I believe this can go here to?

http://uk.arxiv.org/abs/hep-th/0311030

Or maybe Marcus can place it into a relevant forum?
 
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  • #115
Working through their paper gr-qc/0402112, I see that Noui and Perez do a standard quantization, regulating to get a finite sum and then showing that the regulator can be eliminated in quantizing. They then show that their physical Hilbert space is the same as the one obtained in the LQG approach.

All of this depends crucially on the fact that they can represent their 2+1 geometry as the product of a Riemann surface and a line. It's not clear how, or if, this quantization could be extended to 3+1 spacetime. On the other hand, the fact that in this case the standard type of quantization agrees with the Ashtekar et al quantization is supportive for the LQG folks.
 
  • #116
Updating the Surrogate Sticky

We are now at page 11 of the thread, so I will update things and bring the earlier links forward. So far there is no sticky thread for Loop Gravity reference links, and this thread is serving as a surrogate sticky "reference library". Thanks to all who have contributed so far!

-------Loop Gravity texts--------
Rovelli posted the 30 December 2003 draft of his book "Quantum Gravity", to be published this year by Cambridge University Press.
The PDF file is at his homepage
http://www.cpt.univ-mrs.fr/~rovelli/rovelli.html
The book is around 350 pages long and takes a few (like ten?) minutes to download and convert.
To download the 30 December 2003 draft of the book directly:
http://www.cpt.univ-mrs.fr/~rovelli/book.pdf

Here are Thiemann's Lecture Notes (they have been published in Berlin by Springer Verlag)
"Lectures on Loop Quantum Gravity".
A draft is online at
http://arxiv.org/gr-qc/0210094


-------Quantum Gravity Phenomenology and DSR---------

some recent phenomenology and DSR papers:

Giovanni Amelino-Camelia
"A perspective on quantum gravity phenomenology"
http://www.arxiv.org/abs/gr-qc/0402009
dated 2 February 2004

Giovanni Amelino-Camelia, Jerzy Kowalski-Glikman, Gianlucca Mandanici, and Andrea Procaccini
"Phenomenology of Doubly Special Relativity"
http://arxiv.org/gr-qc/0312124
dated 30 December 2003

Jerzy Kowalski-Glikman
"Doubly Special Relativity and quantum gravity phenomenology"
http://arxiv.org/hep-th/0312140
dated 12 December 2003

Jerzy Lukierski
"Relation between quantum κ-Poincare framework and doubly special relativity"
http://arxiv.org./hep-th/0402117
dated 18 February 2004

other less recent ones:

Jerzy Kowalski-Glikman and Sebastian Nowak
"Doubly Special Relativity and de Sitter space"
http://arxiv.org/hep-th/0304101
dated 11 October 2003

M. Daszkiewicz, K. Imilkowska, J. Kowalski-Glikman
"Velocity of particles in Doubly Special Relativity"
http://arxiv.org/hep-th/0304027
dated 3 April 2003


---------Loop Quantum Cosmology-------

Martin Bojowald
"Loop Quantum Cosmology: Recent Progress"
http://arxiv.org/gr-qc/0402053
One of the invited plenary talks at the January 2004 ICGC
conference (see list of recent conferences)


Martin Bojowald and Kevin Vandersloot
"Loop Quantum Cosmology and Boundary Proposals"
http://arxiv.org/gr-qc/0312103
dated 23 December 2003

Martin Bojowald
"Quantum Gravity and the Big Bang"
http://arxiv.org./astro-ph/0309478
dated 17 September 2003, briefly summarizes how
LQG can serve to cure the big bang singularity and
motivate inflationary expansion. Short and less technical
than the other two papers.

Martin Bojowald and Kevin Vandersloot
"Loop Quantum Cosmology, Boundary Proposals, and Inflation"
http://arxiv.org/gr-qc/0303072
dated 19 March 2003

Shinji Tsujikawa, Parampreet Singh, Roy Maartens
"Loop quantum gravity effects on inflation and the CMB"
http://arxiv.org/astro-ph/0311015
from the Tsujikawa/Singh/Maartens abstract:
"In loop quantum cosmology, the universe avoids a big bang singularity and undergoes an early kinetic-dominated super-inflation phase, with a quantum-corrected Friedmann equation. As a result, an inflaton field is driven up its potential hill, thus setting the initial conditions for standard inflation. We show that this effect can raise the inflaton high enough to achieve sufficient e-foldings in the standard inflation era. We analyze the cosmological perturbations and show that loop quantum effects can leave a signature on the largest scales in the CMB, with some loss of power and running of the spectral index."

Viqar Husain and Oliver Winkler "On singularity resolution in quantum gravity"
http://arxiv.org/gr-qc/0312094
this is especially interesting because they duplicate LQC results (for example by Bojowald) using the older version of quantum gravity, ADM variables, quantized metric. Shows that the removal of the big bang singularity is "robust"---doesnt depend on using a particular formalism.

as a background reference for classical (non-quantum) cosmology:
Charles Lineweaver
"Inflation and the Cosmic Microwave Background"
http://arxiv.org/astro-ph/0305179
dated 12 May 2003

-------recent conferences------

Strings meet Loops (Albert Einstein Institute, MPI-Potsdam) October 2003
http://www.aei-potsdam.mpg.de/events/stringloop.html

Loop Gravity Workshop (Mexico City) January 2004
http://www.nuclecu.unam.mx/~corichi/lqg.htm

International Conference on Gravity and Cosmology (India) January 2004
http://www.cusat.ac.in/icgc04/

Quantum Gravity Phenomenology, (40th annual Polish Winterschool in Theoretical Physics) February 2004
http://www.ws2004.ift.uni.wroc.pl/html.html

--------upcoming conferences--------

Loop/SpinFoam Conference (Marseille) May 2004
http://w3.lpm.univ-montp2.fr/~philippe/quantumgravitywebsite/

http://www.maths.qmul.ac.uk/wbin/GRnews/conference?03Aug.1
http://www.maths.qmul.ac.uk/wbin/GRnews/conference?04Feb.2
http://www.maths.qmul.ac.uk/wbin/GRnewsfind/conference?10

General Relativity Conference (Dublin) July 2004
more annoucements at
http://www.maths.qmul.ac.uk/wbin/GRnewsfind/conference?conference

----------fundamental constants, Planck units, time-keeping-------

Historical source for Planck units, the 1899 paper (thanks arivero!)
http://www.bbaw.de/bibliothek/digital/struktur/10-sitz/1899-1/jpg-0600/00000494.htm

In December 2003, the National Institute of Standards and Technology (NIST) posted new CODATA recommended values for the basic Planck units

http://physics.nist.gov/cuu/Constants/

choose "universal" from the menu to find (among other things) the recommended values of
planck mass
planck length
planck time
planck temperature

A 1997 article on timekeeping, discussing GR effects allowed-for in the GPS
http://www.allanstime.com/Publications/DWA/Science_Timekeeping/TheScienceOfTimekeeping.pdf

------observational means for testing quantum gravity------

Floyd Stecker
"Cosmic Physics: the High Energy Frontier
http://arxiv.org/astro-ph/0309027
dated September 2003

Stecker discusses the various earth-based and orbital instruments, currently operating, or under construction, or planned, or proposed, and the kind of data becoming available. Among many other things he discusses GLAST, planned to start operating 2007, which, if there are tiny energy-dependent differences in speed among gamma-ray-burst photons, may be able to detect same. Also discusses neutrino observation.


------links to an unselective assortment of current work------
Livine's thesis
http://arxiv.org/gr-qc/0309028

Girelli and Livine
"Quantizing speeds with the cosmological constant"
http://arxiv.org/gr-qc/0311032

Oriti's thesis
http://arxiv.org/gr-qc/0311066
"Spin Foam Models of Quantum Spacetime"

Karim Noui and Philippe Roche
"Cosmological Deformation of Lorentzian Spin Foam Models"
http://arxiv.org/gr-qc/0211109
The cosmological constant occurs in a number of recent quantum gravity papers, for instance the one by Girelli/Livine.

Velhinho "On the structure of the space of generalized connections"
http://arxiv.org/math-ph/0402060

Noui and Perez "Three dimensional loop quantum gravity: physical scalar product and spin foam models"
http://arxiv.org/gr-qc/0402110

Noui and Perez "Three dimensional loop quantum gravity: coupling to point particles"
http://arxiv.org/gr-qc/0402111

Noui and Perez "Dynamics of Loop Quantum Gravity and Spin Foam Models in Three Dimensions"
http://arxiv.org/gr-qc/0402112

Noui and Perez "Observability and Geometry in Three Dimensional Quantum Gravity"
http://arxiv.org/gr-qc/0402113

Freidel and Louapre "Ponzano-Regge model revisited, I."
http://arxiv.org/hep-th/0401076

Gambini and Pullin "Canonical Quantum Gravity..."
http://arxiv.org/gr-qc/0402062

Buffenoir, Henneaux, Noui, Roche
Hamiltonian Analysis of Plebanski Theory
http://arxiv.org./gr-qc/0404041
(spin foam, BF)


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simply to have this link on LaTex handy:
https://www.physicsforums.com/misc/howtolatex.pdf
 
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  • #117
"Separable Hilbert space in loop quantum gravity"
http://arxiv.org/abs/gr-qc/0403047
By Carlo Rovelli and Winston Fairbairn

Abstract:"We study the separability of the state space of loop quantum gravity. In the standard construction, the kinematical Hilbert space of the diffeomorphism-invariant states is nonseparable. This is a consequence of the fact that the knot-space of the equivalence classes of graphs under diffeomorphisms is noncountable. However, the continuous moduli labeling these classes do not appear to affect the physics of the theory. We investigate the possibility that these moduli could be only the consequence of a poor choice in the fine-tuning of the mathematical setting. We show that by simply choosing a minor extension of the functional class of the classical fields and coordinates, the moduli disappear, the knot classes become countable, and the kinematical Hilbert space of loop quantum gravity becomes separable"
 
  • #118
The Spring 2004 issue of Jorge Pullin's newsletter is out.

"Matters of Gravity"
http://arxiv.org./abs/gr-qc/0403051

It has a number of QG conference reports
by Bojowald
Date
Corichi
and others
 
  • #119
Thank you Marcus, for pointing to this. John Baez used to keep us up to date on this important publication, but he seems to have moved out of QG. The reports were very interesting.
 
  • #121
All I can ever remember seeing at J.B.'s website is QG and category theory. Is he now down to just category theory?
 
  • #122
Many of the QG pioneers like Ashtekar, Lewandowski, Baez are not publishing much and there is a new crop (many of whom were unknown in the Nineties.)

Baez has not published in QG for several years, or only negligibly.
Ashtekar likewise. But both play an important role. Ashtekar is a big presence at conferences. Baez will be a principle figure at the Marseille QG conference in May and the Dublin conference in July.

I guess the people who started up LQG in the 1990s are already
over 40, maybe pushing 50. Ashtekar must be over 50. So with some exceptions it really seems to be the next wave of young LQGists that is making the field progress

maybe the term is "mathopause"----it gets mathematicians
you could have direct knowledge yourself so why elaborate
 
  • #123
Thanks for the info, Marcus.

Yeah, I guess I'm at that age. Of course, I never had the right stuff in the first place!
 
  • #124
the great John Baez burnout

Originally posted by Janitor
Yeah, I guess I'm at that age...

argh! bummer! confession is the pits.

I actually think Baez might blossom again, just in a different field. he is a remarkable guy.
and if he can maybe there is hope for the rest of us.

meanwhile there are up-and-coming people in LQG to watch
here are a few names off the top of my head in no
particular order
Etera Livine
Laurent Freidel
Phillipe Roche
Martin Bojowald
Karim Noui
Hanno Sahlmann
Velhinho
Kowalski-Glikman
 
  • #125
My thesis advisor, Ed Fadell, published important research in the later 1990's. He was pushing 40 when I knew him in the early 1960's, so probably he was 70 when he did that. Don't ever count anybody out.
 
  • #126
selfAdjoint said:
My thesis advisor, Ed Fadell, published important research in the later 1990's. He was pushing 40 when I knew him in the early 1960's, so probably he was 70 when he did that. Don't ever count anybody out.

Algebraic topology, impressive, maybe abstract algebra too?
Had a student by the name of Bob Brown whom I may have met but am not sure (he did abstract algebra IIRC, was teaching galois theory)

just happened on this:
E. Fadell, Homotopy groups of configuration spaces and the string problem of Dirac, Duke Math.J. 29 (1962), 231-242.

Edward Fadell apparently had several topnotch students which is another
dimension---the vitality that goes into that, as well as research. It is possible you made a real good choice of advisor
genes, character
we should all have it whatever it is that never stops
Are grand old men more the norm in physics?
Hans Bethe
did you ever look at the "mathematical geneology" website
it is like the Begats in the bible
I looked up Marc Rieffel not long ago
George Mackey advised Rieffel
and so and so advised Mackey and...

back to Birkhoff at Harvard around 1905 if I remember right
 
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  • #127
You met Bob Brown?! He and I studied together - in fact I was a fixture at his and his wife Brenda's apartment, since I had no significant other of my own then. Bob's had a standout career at UCLA.
 
  • #128
selfAdjoint said:
You met Bob Brown?! He and I studied together - in fact I was a fixture at his and his wife Brenda's apartment, since I had no significant other of my own then. Bob's had a standout career at UCLA.

Im not sure it was the same Bob Brown
algebraist (I formed a high opinion of him as a teacher and person)
could be the same, I'll write you a PM later
 
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  • #129
this just out
http://arxiv.org./abs/gr-qc/0403106

"Inflationary Cosmology and Quantization Ambiguities in Semi-Classical Loop Quantum Gravity"
Martin Bojowald, James E. Lidsey, David J. Mulryne, Parampreet Singh, Reza Tavakol
15 pages, 8 figures

"Loop quantum gravity (LQG) or quantum geometry is
at present the main background independent and non–
perturbative candidate for a quantum theory of gravity
(see for example [1, 2]). Key successes of this approach
have been the prediction of discrete spectra for geometrical
operators [3], the existence of well defined operators
for the matter Hamiltonians which provides a cure for
the ultraviolet divergences [4], and the derivation of the
Bekenstein–Hawking entropy formula [5].

Given that LQG effects are likely to have important
consequences in high energy and high curvature regimes,
early universe cosmology provides a natural environment
to test these new features...

From the loop quantum cosmology (LQC) perspective,
the evolution of the universe is comprised of the three distinct
phases. Initially, there is a truly discrete quantum
phase which is described by a difference equation [9, 10].
A key consequence of this discretization is the removal
of the initial singularity [9]. As its volume increases,
the universe enters an intermediate semi–classical phase
in which the evolution equations take a continuous form
but include modifications due to non–perturbative quantization
effects [12]. Finally, there is the classical phase
in which the usual continuous ODE/PDE cosmological
equations are recovered and quantum effects vanish..."
 
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  • #130
also just out, Clifford Will's paper, could be the same paper he gave last week at Ulm to the German Physical Society

http://arxiv.org./abs/gr-qc/0403100

"Testing Alternative Theories of Gravity Using LISA"

-----quote from abstract-------
We investigate the possible bounds which could be placed on alternative
theories of gravity using gravitational wave detection from inspiralling compact binaries with the proposed LISA space interferometer. Specifically, we estimate lower bounds on the coupling parameter ω of scalar-tensor theories of the Brans-Dicke type and on the Compton wavelength of the graviton λ_g in hypothetical massive graviton theories.

In these theories, modifications of the gravitational radiation damping formulae or of the propagation of the waves translate into a change in the phase evolution of the observed gravitational waveform. We obtain the bounds through the technique of matched filtering, employing the LISA Sensitivity Curve Generator (SCG), available online. For a neutron star inspiralling into a 103M⊙ black hole in the Virgo Cluster,
in a two-year integration, we find a lower bound ω > 3 × 10^5. For lower-mass black holes, the bound could be as large as 2 × 10^6. The bound is independent of LISA arm length, but is inversely proportional to the LISA position noise error. Lower bounds on the graviton Compton wavelength ranging from 10^15 km to 5 × 10^16 km can be obtained from one-year observations of massive binary black hole inspirals at cosmological distances (3 Gpc), for masses ranging from 10^4 to 10^7M⊙. For the
highest-mass systems (10^7M⊙), the bound is proportional to (LISA arm length)1/2 and to (LISA acceleration noise)^−1/2. For the others, the bound is independent of these parameters because of the dominance of white-dwarf confusion noise in the relevant part of the frequency spectrum. These bounds improve and extend earlier work which used analytic formulae for the noise curves.
---------end quote-------
 
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  • #131
Initially, there is a truly discrete quantum
phase which is described by a difference equation [9, 10].
A key consequence of this discretization is the removal
of the initial singularity [9]. As its volume increases,
the universe enters an intermediate semi–classical phase
in which the evolution equations take a continuous form
but include modifications due to non–perturbative quantization
effects [12].
Is there any paper that can says when exactly in time the evolution of the universe change to be described by a difference equation to be described by differential equations?
 
  • #132
meteor said:
Is there any paper that can says when exactly in time the evolution of the universe change to be described by a difference equation to be described by differential equations?

IIRC Ashtekar's paper "Quantum Geometry in Action: Big Bang and Black Holes"
gives an estimate of several hundred steps (of the difference equation) to converge to the semi-classical model

it is the usual sort of limiting process
the quantum regime converges to the semiclassical (after a very short period on the order of 100 Planck time units)
and the semiclassical converges thereafter more gradually to
the ordinary or partial differential equation model
but as with other kinds of convergence one cannot say with precision the exact moment when
the discrete model stops being appropriate and the semiclassical model
begins to apply
there is a transition period when both are giving approximately the same answer

So what one needs is a rough order of magnitude idea of when the transition between models happens. If it is not in that Ashtekar paper then I must be thinking of one by Ashtekar, Bojowald, Lewandowski called
"Mathematical Structure of Loop Quantum Cosmology"

I will try to get a link and page reference for the several hundred Planck time units or DiffEq timesteps---it's in one or the other or both papers. May be other places as well so someone else could come up with yet another link.

------------LONG LAPSE OF TIME-----
I forgot to get the references, however the one I mentioned first has something.
See page 10 of gr-qc/0202008, last paragraph of section 3.1 "Big Bang".
Ashtekar says there that the semiclassical model (Wheeler-DeWitt) is recovered when the scale of the universe is a few hundred Planck lengths. that is, very soon.
Also next to last paragraph on page 8.
I would like to find a more recent and more precise paper, in answer to your question. At the moment I don't have one. Perhaps someone else out there does.
 
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  • #133
"3.3 Chern-Simons perturbation theory.
Setting
\frac{3}{4} = \frac{2}{3}
our Lagrangian becomes the Chern-Simons-functional..."

there is a mathematician named Dror Bar-Natan
on page 19 of this paper
q-alg/9702009
"The Fundamental Theorem of Vassiliev Invariants"
he claims to prove something
by setting 3/4 equal to 2/3.

His paper is about the "Fundamental Theorem of Vassiliev Invariants"
and it is divided into four sections with four different ways of proving
the fundamental theory and at the end of each section he has
a concluding paragraph entitled
"Why are we not happy?"

This shows a philosophical concern with the problem of human happiness.
Also he proves the theorem by algebra, by physics (the oldest way, already almost 10 years old), by geometry, by topology. and he finds something always unsatisfying or wrong. in the middle of the proof by physics he says
"This is of course silly."

Dror Bar-Natan has an unusual expository style. Or at least I hope that it is unusual.

BTW he calls the topological method "combinatorial-topological" because doubtless he thinks of combinatorics and topology as very close neighbors or almost joined at the hip

He cites V.I.Arnold a russian mathematician. Fairbairn and Rovelli also cited a book by V.I. Arnold. It would be possible to suspect that something is going on with knot theory and Vassiliev invariants. the quirky Bar-Natan tone of voice even encourages this suspicion.

Perhaps it will be necessary to classify knots-with-nodes and I cannot at the moment visualize how this would be done.

I will get the LQG paper by Gambini and Pullin that cites this Bar-Nathan.
Nonunitary gave this link in another thread.

------quote from nonunitary post in "chunkymorphism" thread---
...As far as I know the first paper about the invariants was

gr-qc/9803018

but you are right about the chunkymorphisms. The are a new invention of Rovelli. I haven't read the paper so I can not comment.
-----endquote----

the Gambini/Pullin paper
http://arxiv.org/gr-qc/9803018
is called
"Vassiliev invariants: a new framework for quantum gravity"
 
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  • #134
How do you get to those q_alg papers in the arxiv? I have been trying every trick in the book for half an hour now and nothing! Click on mathematics and get, but can't ge q-alg or QA. Click on 1997 and search, nothing.
 
  • #135
selfAdjoint said:
How do you get to those q_alg papers in the arxiv? I have been trying every trick in the book for half an hour now and nothing! Click on mathematics and get, but can't ge q-alg or QA. Click on 1997 and search, nothing.

only have a minute to reply but try
http://arxiv.org/PS_cache/q-alg/pdf/9702/9702009.pdf

will get back in a few minutes and check that this works

Im back.
this should get the abstract:
http://arxiv.org/q-alg/9702009

now I understand. the problem is to use the search engine
to find a paper like this one, but hopefully more recent
------------------

go to arxiv
don't click on search immediately
because right beside the button that says "search" there is
a menu box where you can select "math"

select "math" and then click on "search"

you then get a form where you can type in Author and Keyword
I typed in Bar-Natan and knot
and got many QA papers including this sample

3. math.QA/0201043 [abs, ps, pdf, other] :
Title: On Khovanov's categorification of the Jones polynomial
Authors: Dror Bar-Natan
Comments: Published by Algebraic and Geometric Topology at this http URL, 34 pages with many figures, source contains associated program and data file
Subj-class: Quantum Algebra; Geometric Topology
MSC-class: 57M25
Journal-ref: Algebraic and Geometric Topology 2 (2002) 337-370
 
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  • #136
Thanks. Using your hint, I fooled around and found it with"Vassiliev invariants" which is what I was interested in anyway. Bar-Natan's motive for "why are we not happy" is perfectly clear; he wants to impose on his students a careful understanding of what it means to have a "proved theorem" which you can use to prove other things, and what it does NOT mean - which is the status of what he calls the fundamental theorem of Vassiliev invariants.
 
  • #137
Hi selfAdjoint, I concur with your description of Bar-Natan's
serious and commendable motive but I also delight immoderately in
his sense of humor
which he uses to the hilt in implementing his serious idea

thanks to nonunitary for this, I never would have seen the paper if
he had not referred to that one by Gambini and Pullin about LQG and
the Vassiliev invariants

you know diff manifolds are in a deep sense just gussied up Rn
and it just shows you what an enormously rich thing Euclidean space is
that you can have all these different variations on that theme
the theme of the continuum
the theme of the coordinate patch and the metric
all fundamentally Rn at the root

can knots and networks be comparably rich
why is there all this interest in them just now
well this is not purely a rhetorical question although it
sounds like it, I was actually wondering, but not expecting to
be able to get an answer

it was clever of you to study algebraic topology in grad school
maybe it will be useful after lo these many years
 
  • #138
You might be interested to have a look at Frieder Lenz's
lecture notes on
"Topological concepts in gauge theories"

http://arxiv.org./hep-th/0403286

the whole thing is 83 pages

http://arxiv.org./PS_cache/hep-th/pdf/0403/0403286.pdf

They just came out.
he has a good historical sense and begins with a story about something that happened in 1833 involving Carl Gauss and a magnetic monopole :-)

these notes strike me as student-friendly
by someone who is considerate and puts in some nice pictures
Getting ready for a Brahms Req rehearsal tonite.
Up to you to decide if Frieder Lenz's notes are good or not and for what.
 
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  • #139
Thanks for the links, Marcus.

You know, reading Bar Natan's account of the topological proof of his "fundamental theorem" and its defects, I couldn't help thinking here's a natural arena for spectral sequences. That's only because I'm reading A User's Guide to Spectral Sequences at the same time, but seriously there are his filtered graded algebra and all - by a theorem, there is guaranteed to be a spectral sequence with the 1-page E^{p,q}_1 isomorphic to the homology of the algebra. But that's no good unless you can compute the limiting page E^{p,q}_{\infty}. The differentials of the sequence encode non trivial information about the algebra. I can't believe somebody hasn't tried this.
 
  • #140
Bolen, Bombelli, Corichi
http://arxiv.org./abs/gr-qc/0404004
"Semiclassical States in Quantum Cosmology: Bianchi I Coherent States"

"We study coherent states for Bianchi type I cosmological models, as examples of semiclassical states for time-reparametrization invariant systems. This simple model allows us to study explicitly the relationship between exact semiclassical states in the kinematical Hilbert space and corresponding ones in the physical Hilbert space, which we construct here using the group averaging technique. We find that it is possible to construct good semiclassical physical states by such a procedure in this model; we also discuss the sense in which the original kinematical states may be a good approximation to the physical ones, and the situations in which this is the case. In addition, these models can be deparametrized in a natural way, and we study the effect of time evolution on an "intrinsic" coherent state in the reduced phase space, in order to estimate the time for this state to spread significantly."
 
  • #141
the great John Baez burnout

marcus said:
Baez has not published in QG for several years, or only negligibly.

Well, I don't think my paper with Christensen and Egan on asymptotics of 10j symbols was negligible - it contained the results of literally billions of calculations, and it was the first detailed analysis of a spin foam model of quantum gravity. And that was back in August of 2002, which isn't several years yet, just a couple! "Several" means at least 3! :smile:

But, you're right in perceiving that I'm mainly interested in other things
these days.

I found out about this thread from Carlo Rovelli, who sent me an email teasing me about it. I couldn't resist replying to an article entitled "the great John Baez burnout"! I'll take it as a compliment, since it suggests there was a flame flickering there for a while.

Here's how I replied to Rovelli's email:

Dear Carlo -

Hi! I hadn't seen these... thanks. It's pretty funny.
You know you're getting old when you start getting emails
with subject headers like this.

I am in fact rather fed up with quantum gravity. One reason is that
nobody knows a spin foam model that approximates GR in the classical
limit, and I don't see how to get one, despite a lot of work. But
there's another, equally important *positive* reason: these days, work
on n-categories is really revolutionizing mathematics! The subject
is packed with incredible suprises; it goes all the way down to
the foundations of how we think, and there are huge wide-open fields
of fruit ripe for the picking. I can't help but wanting to spend
my time doing this: it's as cool almost as quantum gravity, but I *know*
it will work.

But I might switch back to quantum gravity if and when spin foam
models seem to start working... because I really love the *physical*
universe, and the most mysterious and exciting aspect of math
to me is how it let's us understand the physical universe.

It will be fun to see everyone in Marseilles and see what their
mood is. Probably rather different from mine!


jb

Just so nobody gets the wrong idea: while I'm tired of trying to find a spin foam model with something like GR as its classical limit, I don't see any reason this should be impossible. Christensen, Egan and I just looked at a few versions of the Barrett-Crane model, and we didn't even succeed in ruling those out, just showing that they were far stranger than anyone expected.

I'm even *more* pessimistic about string theory and M-theory - otherwise I might switch to that.

But really, what got me off quantum gravity was the knowledge that I won't live forever. I have a choice of working on quantum gravity, where nobody knows for sure what's right and what's not, and working on mathematics, where I'm *sure* what I'm doing is right. I spent about a decade working on the former; now I want to do more of the latter.


maybe the term is "mathopause"----it gets mathematicians.

Actually, the idea that mathematicians burn out early is a bit of a myth. Sure, some of them *die* early, like Abel and Galois and Riemann. But the ones who keep living often keep doing good stuff - although lots of them get tired of publishing and spend more time just thinking and talking to people, because it's easier and more fun. For example, take Dennis Sullivan, or Erdos (who got other people to do the writing).

In case anyone is interested, I have a new paper called "Quantum Quandaries: A Category-Theoretic Perspective", in which I argue that a lot of the puzzling things about quantum mechanics will become less puzzling when it becomes part of a theory of quantum gravity, because the category of Hilbert spaces is a lot like a category where the morphisms are spacetimes:

http://math.ucr.edu/home/baez/quantum.ps

This will appear in a volume edited by Steven French, Dean Rickles and Juha Saatsi, probably to be entitled "Structural Foundations of Quantum Gravity".

So, I'm not *completely* fed up with quantum gravity.

I'm also working a lot on the foundations of quantum theory:

http://math.ucr.edu/home/baez/qg-fall2003/
http://math.ucr.edu/home/baez/qg-winter2004/
http://math.ucr.edu/home/baez/qg-spring2004/

So, please don't count me out yet! :smile:

But, it's true that there's a nice new crop of people working on loop quantum gravity and spin foam models.
 
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  • #142
john baez said:
I won't live forever

Do you have the proof for that? :biggrin:
 
  • #143
Background Independent Quantum Gravity---survey paper

http://arxiv.org./abs/gr-qc/0404018

Background Independent Quantum Gravity: a Status Report

125 pages

Ashtekar and Lewandowski
 
  • #144
Just call me a Baez fanboy. I have spent countless hours at his website undergoing significant neural rewiring. Because of him I've been inspired to learn mathematics (I mean really learn it, beyond the "mathematical methods for physics" course I took way back in my undergraduate years). Baez is on the cutting edge of physics and mathematics, but he kindly and humbly devotes some of his time to helping us lesser beings learn something about the wonders of these subjects. His website is a pedagogical paradise.
 
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  • #145
well said!
 
  • #146
"Flat spacetime vacuum in loop quantum gravity"
http://arxiv.org/abs/gr-qc/0404021

Authors: A. Mikovic
Comments: 20 pages, 6 figures

"We construct a state in the loop quantum gravity theory with zero cosmological constant, which should correspond to the flat spacetime vacuum solution. This is done by defining the loop transform coefficients of a flat connection wavefunction in the holomorphic representation which satisfies all the constraints of quantum General Relativity and it is peaked around the flat space triads. The loop transform coefficients are defined as spin foam state sum invariants of the spin networks embedded in the spatial manifold for the SU(2) quantum group. We also obtain an expression for the vacuum wavefunction in the triad represntation, by defining the corresponding spin networks functional integrals as SU(2) quantum group state sums"

Looking at the text, he mentions something called "spin network invariants". Never heard of this before (though I'm familiar with things like knot invariants or manifold invariants)
 
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  • #147
spin network invariants

meteor said:
Looking at the text, he mentions something called "spin network invariants". Never heard of this before (though I'm familiar with things like knot invariants or manifold invariants)

A spin network invariant is a function that assigns a complex number to each spin network embedded in space, where the number doesn't change when you apply a diffeomorphism of space to your spin network. (Here "space" is some 3-dimensional manifold.)

In loop quantum gravity, quantum states are commonly taken to be spin network invariants. You can think of such a state as a big fat linear combination of spin networks, where the coefficients are the aforementioned complex numbers.

If you attach a spin 0, 1/2, 1,... to a knot, you get a spin network of a specially simple kind. So, any spin network invariant gives an infinite sequence of knot invariants. But it has more information.
 
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  • #148
By the way Dr. Baez, I have printed of and am studying your new Quantum Quandries paper.. How neat! From a sufficiently high perspective, quantum physics and general relativity are more like each other than either of them is like set theory. I am always glad to see set theory marginalized, because of my prejudice for Tarski's theorem and the BSS-machine results.
 
  • #149
I've pretty much decided that there isn't a Santa Claus, but is there really a John Baez? :biggrin:
 
  • #150
The Bianchi IX model in Loop Quantum Cosmology
Authors: Martin Bojowald, Ghanashyam Date, Golam Mortuza Hossain
Comments: 41 pages, 3 figures, revtex4
Report-no: IMSc/2004/04/16, AEI-2004-028

The Bianchi IX model has been used often to investigate the structure close to singularities of general relativity. Its classical chaos is expected to have, via the BKL scenario, implications even for the approach to general inhomogeneous singularities. Thus, it is a popular model to test consequences of modifications to general relativity suggested by quantum theories of gravity. This paper presents a detailed proof that modifications coming from loop quantum gravity lead to a non-chaotic effective behavior. The way this is realized, independently of quantization ambiguities, suggests a new look at initial and final singularities
http://arxiv.org/abs/gr-qc/0404039
 
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